Quick Question Re:1.4 Duratec
Posted 19 November 2011 - 08:57 PM
It drives really well when manually selecting the gears, but when in full auto, there seems to be some lag during gear changes, it seems to take about 2 seconds delay while the clutch engages and the gear drops into place, it's almost like a kangaroo feeling or stutter? It's a noticeable lag where the engine cuts power.
Now, not having ever owned an auto box on a car this small the dealer is telling me that this is fairly usual for the size of engine?
Any opinions would be greatly appreciated. Everything else seems pretty nice considering the age of the vehicle, just for the record it has 42k on the clock and drives superbly in manual.
Cheers in advance for any opinions.
Posted 19 November 2011 - 10:36 PM
I too have the Fusion 1.4 Zetec durashift, and I would certainly agree that the gearchanges do appear to be a little on the lethargic side, when compared to modern dsg type auto boxes, but as long as the change is smooth, I would have no real fears....it does take a little getting used to. At the end of the day the durashift box is essentially a manual box (indeed it is known as a semi-automatic), operated by solenoids and controlled by a secondary ECU (electronic control unit, or sometimes referred to as a 'brain') Citroen use a very similar unit, quite prolifically on many of their cars very successfully. Essentially, these gearboxes are incredibly reliable, however when they do give bother, it is essential that someone who knows exactly what they are doing, tackles the repair, as usually they are reasonably simple to diagnose and repair, in the right hands. The odd horror story you may hear is when someone without the required technical knowhow has attempted to tackle what could easily be a very minor fault, and created a real dogs dinner for someone else to pick the bones out of.
hope this helps.
Posted 19 November 2011 - 11:11 PM
Posted 23 November 2011 - 05:06 PM
Now - to be fair to the dealer he was amazing.! Came to our rescue at the Garage, Jumped the car, took us back to his house and promptly refunded ALL of our money (cash!) without question. He then proceeded to drive us home (35 miles) with the car in semi-auto and it didn't judder once?!! It Just had a slight stutter when going up a pretty steep hill.
I've asked the dealer if he would consider fixing and reselling us the car fixed, but he doesn't want to lose more money on the car, and has basically said now that he knows about the fault he would consider a small discount if I want to rectify the issue myself. He also stated that he will not sell the car with a known issue without telling the next potential buyer, and I totally believe him. He seems a proper genuine car dealer. So it's a case of take a (small £100) discount and accept the fault is on the car - or walk away.
So, after that long rabble, I wondered if any of you had experienced this before and could potentially give me some indicative figures for the repair? I have read up on Acctuator replacement being one potential fix @ Approx £120 plus labour?
Does anyone have any other ideas - or - should I just walk away? The car is lovely and drives like new in semi-auto!! Very gutted, blown a lot of cash sorting insurance etc would really like to buy it... Any Help or comments appreciated....
I won't name the dealer in question, but total respect to them. They were very courtious and reassuring to both me and my wife and I am very thankful of that.
Posted 23 November 2011 - 05:19 PM
You might buy it and the problem could be alot more to fix , if it was £100 mark i'm sure the dealer would fix it before passing it on , so i'm guessing he may think otherwise to try and move it with £100 discount.
Posted 23 November 2011 - 06:14 PM
Posted 24 November 2011 - 08:47 PM
Posted 24 November 2011 - 10:09 PM
this is a 53 (2004) model 1.3 Fusion 2 Duratec
as far as I knew they didn't put the durashift box in with the 1.3 engine....only the 1.4...???? Just as an afterthought
I think that was a typo, he does state initially that it was a 1.4 in the original posts
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