suddste Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Hello, Just got back from a drive and ive noticed the clutch is slipping once again. I only got it replaced less than a month ago and it's slipping again, must've lasted less than 1000 miles. Ive just driven normally in that time, even rev matching. Now I beleive it to be that the flywheel was not replaced/resurfaced when changing the clutch previously. Ive only herd this from the internet though. They never mentioned anything about the flyhweel at all before/after the clutch change. So who's fault is it? It surely must be the garages fault. Where do I go from here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preee Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 There should be a guarantee on the parts , i would head straight back there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suddste Posted January 14, 2012 Author Share Posted January 14, 2012 There should be a guarantee on the parts , i would head straight back there thanks. thats what I will be doing. How could it have worn so quickly thpugh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordpartsman Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 it may not be worn, it could be that you have a hydraulic slave cylinder (the bit that operates the clutch) and it is leaking fluid onto the friction plate and thus lubricating a surface that does not want it. NB flywheel do not need matching and very rarely need replacing, unless you own a car with a dual mass flywheel but we won't get into that now as its a big farce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artscot79 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 when i had mine done the slave cylinder was faulty and had popped its seal causing clutch slip and the fluid to go down took it in to ford and they replaced everything again under wqarranty so ide take it back and have it looked at ive never had a flywheel done on any car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suddste Posted January 15, 2012 Author Share Posted January 15, 2012 thanks everyone. But how would I go about it. Would it not be the garages fault that did it for breaking the slave cylinder? I beleive the slave cylinder is called a "concentric slave cylinder" and I know they put in a new one of these Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artscot79 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 i simply took mine back they stripped it down and found the slave cylinderwhich they replaced as part of the clutch kit had been faulty they replaced the whole lot and charged the manufacturer for it as it was there part that was faulty. i noticed oil dripping off the gearbox bell housing take it back to the garage mate it will be gauranteed parts and workmanship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suddste Posted January 15, 2012 Author Share Posted January 15, 2012 i simply took mine back they stripped it down and found the slave cylinderwhich they replaced as part of the clutch kit had been faulty they replaced the whole lot and charged the manufacturer for it as it was there part that was faulty. i noticed oil dripping off the gearbox bell housing take it back to the garage mate it will be gauranteed parts and workmanship thanks mate. I have noticed the breaks are less responsive than they were before I took it in. The breaks and clutch share the same reservoir dont they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
froggy Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 yea they do mate ,ive been fitting clutchs for over 13 years and it sounds like faulty clutch or carm unit (slave cylinder) leaking and cotaminating the clutch but normaly you would notice the clutch feeling spongy but either way it will be under warrantee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suddste Posted January 15, 2012 Author Share Posted January 15, 2012 yea they do mate ,ive been fitting clutchs for over 13 years and it sounds like faulty clutch or carm unit (slave cylinder) leaking and cotaminating the clutch but normaly you would notice the clutch feeling spongy but either way it will be under warrantee It was not Fords I took it to to have the clutch done, though, i'm a bit worried about that. Also it only slips now and again but I know it's there and trying to move off is pretty hard, if they test drive it tommoriow and they say nothings wrong what can I do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
froggy Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 you will soon know if its slipping ,just get the engine upto normal temp then drive down the road and while accelerating put your foot on the foot brake if the clutch is slipping it will at that time ,it might smell a bit but if it comes to a holt and the engine stalls then the clutch is ok and if they say its ok then take to where you can get a secound opion mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suddste Posted January 15, 2012 Author Share Posted January 15, 2012 you will soon know if its slipping ,just get the engine upto normal temp then drive down the road and while accelerating put your foot on the foot brake if the clutch is slipping it will at that time ,it might smell a bit but if it comes to a holt and the engine stalls then the clutch is ok and if they say its ok then take to where you can get a secound opion mate yeah I know, i've figured out what a slipping clutch looks like lol. It's just proving it to them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artscot79 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 if it was done at a garage even if it wasnt ford the parts and labour are still under a warranty and its down to them to rectify the fault you shouldnt have to prove it to be honest check the brake and clutch fluid see if its down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suddste Posted January 15, 2012 Author Share Posted January 15, 2012 if it was done at a garage even if it wasnt ford the parts and labour are still under a warranty and its down to them to rectify the fault you shouldnt have to prove it to be honest check the brake and clutch fluid see if its down hello, sorry I think the break fluid is clear so I cant see it. Either that or the fluid is so low I cant actually see it at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artscot79 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 you should be able to see it just in its container if it was that low you would have a warning light on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suddste Posted January 15, 2012 Author Share Posted January 15, 2012 you should be able to see it just in its container if it was that low you would have a warning light on hello, cant check till tommorow which is when I take it back. I have a strong suspicion that they will say it's fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suddste Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 As I said they would, they have said everything is fine, even when I managed to get it to slip when he was with me. They said they could take it out under waranty and get the cost from the manufacturer but if they find the clutch is fine I have to pay for it. They said I could leave it since I had a 1 year waranty anyway. What should I do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artscot79 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 its up to you but mine got worse mate is there fluid loss? at the end of the day it shouldnt be slipping if it was me ide have it stripped and if i had to pay for it but ide be arguing that the clutch is slipping so something is amiss somewhere. if its the slave cylinder it will get worse and brake fluid will start to dissapear quickly have a look at the bell housing for fluid where the housing and gearbox join and check the brake fluid but if it was me ide have it taken in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suddste Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 its up to you but mine got worse mate is there fluid loss? at the end of the day it shouldnt be slipping if it was me ide have it stripped and if i had to pay for it but ide be arguing that the clutch is slipping so something is amiss somewhere. if its the slave cylinder it will get worse and brake fluid will start to dissapear quickly have a look at the bell housing for fluid where the housing and gearbox join and check the brake fluid but if it was me ide have it taken in hi mate I will check in a bit. I'm a bit worried about them saying the clutch is fine when they take it out and i'd have to pay a full £450 again for it, i'll wait for it to get worse which it inevitably will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suddste Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 hi mate I will check in a bit. I'm a bit worried about them saying the clutch is fine when they take it out and i'd have to pay a full £450 again for it, i'll wait for it to get worse which it inevitably will. ok ive just checked the brake fluid and it's really hard to see but from what I guess is the fluid level line it's full Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artscot79 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 £450 for a clutch kit you must be jolking i paid £250 for a clutch kit inc labour from ford that was pressure plate cluth plate slave cylinder and brake/clutch fluid renewal its only a 4 hour job labour wise i suppose its really up to you but ide have the slipping looked into ask them to bleed the clutch as it may be some trapped air in the hydraulics and see from there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suddste Posted January 16, 2012 Author Share Posted January 16, 2012 £450 for a clutch kit you must be jolking i paid £250 for a clutch kit inc labour from ford that was pressure plate cluth plate slave cylinder and brake/clutch fluid renewal its only a 4 hour job labour wise i suppose its really up to you but ide have the slipping looked into ask them to bleed the clutch as it may be some trapped air in the hydraulics and see from there thanks, Fords here was about the same so went to the smaller garage anyway because it was more convient. Could it be trapped air causing it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney871 Posted January 16, 2012 Share Posted January 16, 2012 Really sounds like trapped air or contaminated fluid to me. I'd bleed the system right down and start with fresh fluid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt Posted January 17, 2012 Share Posted January 17, 2012 How would trapped air or contaminated fluid cause clutch slip? It seems much more likely the slave cylinder has leaked fluid over the friction surfaces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suddste Posted January 17, 2012 Author Share Posted January 17, 2012 Theres no evidence of leaking though which suggests trapped air. And tge breaks also feel less effective as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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