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#1 thenthornthing

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 09:47 AM

Hello,
I brought a Focus LX TDCI (1.6) 55 reg with 64k miles, from a trader mid-last month.

So far it has been all good, though today I have a problem. Parking up outside a shop I misjudged the distance and ended up hitting the kerb. It was hard enough to scratch my nearside front wheel. Mounting a hill afterwards I noticed a lack of power but thought nothing of it.

Anyway, a tad later my route takes me up a rather large hill (a hill which my Focus would usually manage a decent speed in third or fourth gear, bearing in mind it's a residential area.) I approached the hill in third gear (30mph) and swiftly lost power reducing me to second, and then first gear. I could hardly get the speedo above 10 miles an hour. I had to turn around on the hill, which fortunately lacked traffic due to it being 8am on a Sunday morning.

I'm pretty sure my bump will be the cause, maybe dislodged something? To be honest I've no idea where to look myself, will get my step-dad to have a look when he's up later! But looking for any advice. It's almost like the turbo isn't working at all, but then surely without turbo I'd have more power up the hill?

Thanks in advance for your help!!

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 11:04 AM

How hard was the bump up the kerb?!? It would have to be something pretty severe to do damage I would have thought!

Anyway, could be a few things.. Check to see if any turbo pipes have come off, or pipes to te intercooler... Any boost leak anywhere in the turbo system will cause all of power...



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Posted 26 February 2012 - 11:06 AM

It wasn't very hard, probably about 20mph hit. If that. Maybe it was harder than I thought?

Anyway will check all of that in a mo and get back to you. Thanks

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 11:26 AM

If u hit it at 20mph I'd also get your geometry checked at a tyre garage... You'll most definitely need it adjusting after a "bump" at that speed! Lol

When u say lack of power... Can u still rev it up te rev range or does it stop at say 2000rpm? And not let u go anymore??

Just wondering if hitting something at that speed has knocked a sensor, or something's told the ecu to go into limp mode...

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 11:44 AM

It wasn't very hard, probably about 20mph hit. If that. Maybe it was harder than I thought?

Anyway will check all of that in a mo and get back to you. Thanks


Nathan,

Do me a favour, don’t try and park within a mile of my car, your driving skills need some attention before you hurt yourself or somebody else!

Don’t take that too hard, it’s for your own good.

Take care,

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 12:43 PM

Nathan,

Do me a favour, don’t try and park within a mile of my car, your driving skills need some attention before you hurt yourself or somebody else!

Don’t take that too hard, it’s for your own good.

Take care,


Hi,
Ya you're probably right. I think my driving skills were poor, and I make no denying that what I did was stupid. I was tired at the time, literally only just woken up so that's probably the reason, and yes, my own mistake. Fortunately we live miles apart, so I won't need to park (or try to) near you. Though, we all make mistakes, I don't know you, but I'm sure you have before. I've been driving only 2 years, but this is the first major !Removed!-up I've done. What's done is done, I know i'm a !Removed!, but i'm now trying to fix the problem.


If u hit it at 20mph I'd also get your geometry checked at a tyre garage... You'll most definitely need it adjusting after a "bump" at that speed! Lol

When u say lack of power... Can u still rev it up te rev range or does it stop at say 2000rpm? And not let u go anymore??

Just wondering if hitting something at that speed has knocked a sensor, or something's told the ecu to go into limp mode...


The strange thing is the steering is fine and everything in that sense is ok. Me and my step-dad have been out looking and the turbo pipe has become disconnected and therefore the clip broken, we've cable-tied it up for now (and will get a replacement in the week), but it hasn't fixed the problem. (Pic below)

Starting the engine and revving, when you get to about 2000 revs you hear a strange noise, sort of like there is something in the engine. Anyway, took it out for a spin again and the problem remains. It revs fine, in fact normal. But obviously you're not getting the power. On a hill around my area, down to first gear again with a sort of horrid noise (hard to explain). No black smoke though.

Took home again and lifted the bonnet. Same problem and looks the same. We haven't jacked it up yet, but from looking everything seems connected fine and seems fine. Though sounds slightly unhealthy. lifting the oil cap up, it looks more like exhaust fumes rather than steam coming from there?

I intend to take it to our mechanic tomorrow and maybe see if he can do a diagnostics on it. I don't know a lot about cars, but I think your idea about the ECU and limp mode sounds quite plausible. I guess a reputable garage could reset that?

Oh also no warning lights at all come on.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 01:25 PM

Hi,
Ya you're probably right. I think my driving skills were poor, and I make no denying that what I did was stupid. I was tired at the time, literally only just woken up so that's probably the reason, and yes, my own mistake. Fortunately we live miles apart, so I won't need to park (or try to) near you. Though, we all make mistakes, I don't know you, but I'm sure you have before. I've been driving only 2 years, but this is the first major !Removed!-up I've done. What's done is done, I know i'm a !Removed!, but i'm now trying to fix the problem.




The strange thing is the steering is fine and everything in that sense is ok. Me and my step-dad have been out looking and the turbo pipe has become disconnected and therefore the clip broken, we've cable-tied it up for now (and will get a replacement in the week), but it hasn't fixed the problem. (Pic below)

Starting the engine and revving, when you get to about 2000 revs you hear a strange noise, sort of like there is something in the engine. Anyway, took it out for a spin again and the problem remains. It revs fine, in fact normal. But obviously you're not getting the power. On a hill around my area, down to first gear again with a sort of horrid noise (hard to explain). No black smoke though.

Took home again and lifted the bonnet. Same problem and looks the same. We haven't jacked it up yet, but from looking everything seems connected fine and seems fine. Though sounds slightly unhealthy. lifting the oil cap up, it looks more like exhaust fumes rather than steam coming from there?

I intend to take it to our mechanic tomorrow and maybe see if he can do a diagnostics on it. I don't know a lot about cars, but I think your idea about the ECU and limp mode sounds quite plausible. I guess a reputable garage could reset that?

Oh also no warning lights at all come on.

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I am sorry you cocked your car this morning, and yes we all learn by our mistakes, I have made many my self and I hope I have learnt by them. Driving whilst tired is as dangerous as drink driving as you probably now realise, and I am sure you wont do it again.

My comment about parking near me was intended as a joke and I am sorry if it offended you.

Take care and I hope you get your car sorted.

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 01:32 PM

I am sorry you cocked your car this morning, and yes we all learn by our mistakes, I have made many my self and I hope I have learnt by them. Driving whilst tired is as dangerous as drink driving as you probably now realise, and I am sure you wont do it again.

My comment about parking near me was intended as a joke and I am sorry if it offended you.

Take care and I hope you get your car sorted.


Yes, I won't be doing that again in a hurry. And that's ok :) None taken

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 01:42 PM

It could be that the turbo pipe isn't making a proper seal anymore... So you'll still be getting a leak. If u have no warning lights then limp mode probably hasn't kicked in...

Can u explain the noise a bit more?? I hope it's not the turbo breaking or broken up... :s

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 01:47 PM

It could be that the turbo pipe isn't making a proper seal anymore... So you'll still be getting a leak. If u have no warning lights then limp mode probably hasn't kicked in...

Can u explain the noise a bit more?? I hope it's not the turbo breaking or broken up... :s

Nope no lights at all, so that's that discounted.

Right so first step really would be to get that pipe replaced? Thing is it never looked like it had a brilliant seal anyway, though I guess it's better than our attempted seal.

The noise when driving is like something is rattling around a bit, maybe metal. When stationary revving, it sounds like there is maybe something in their. Just sounds like metal or something floating around. Or like it's not getting enough oil or something (though there is enough oil in there)

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 01:49 PM

Does the sound come from the turbo or from further down the pipe? Do u have an intercooler on your car?

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 01:53 PM

Can you post a photo of where the noise appears to be coming from ?

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 01:53 PM

Does the sound come from the turbo or from further down the pipe? Do u have an intercooler on your car?


Around the turbo area, it's hard to actually tell specifically where it is coming from. I'd say nearer the turbo. Ya. There is an intercooler in there yes

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 02:14 PM

Can you post a photo of where the noise appears to be coming from ?


The turbo "area".

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 02:24 PM

Sounds like a vibrating heat shield to me ?

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