Preee Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 This is where i buy my ELM327 from. I have just tested two of them (although i have no MK2 to attach to) i can get both of them to sit on 500000 and open up ELMConfig http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251176546779?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT i ran a test on them and both only go as far as 500000 , i did get a couple of error's while playing around , but both start now on 500000 Again i can't test fully Can you get yours to sit on 500000 and open ELMConfig with out connecting to your car or does it just fail when you connect to your car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cragrat Posted July 18, 2013 Share Posted July 18, 2013 Hi Preee, I have tried again without connecting to car. The only way I can carry out the speed test is if I set the speed to 38400 in the first screen (next to Com Port) any other higher speed fails. I carry out speed test and 500000 is ok (screen shot) set adaptor constant speed to 500000. next screen is the hard reset (screen shot) click OK. 'New speed was set reset adaptor to apply settings' (screen shot) I press OK and it all shuts down. I restart the speed is set at 500000 connect to car, ignition on, go to open port and it fails (see screen shot). I think the adaptor may be the problem but if you can though some more light on this before I use the link you sent me I would be most gratefull. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wy852852 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Have you already tried to remove the positive battery cable for about half an hour? If removing the battery cable does not solve the problem you can try to remove the instrument cluster from the car, connect it directly to a (12 Volt DC) power source and the ELM327 interface and perform the firmware update again . Sometimes this will solve the problem. If performing the update outside the car also does not solve the problem there are only a few possibillities. You can buy and re-program another (either brand new or already used) instrument cluster or take the current (not working) instrument cluster to a specialized company for repair (if possible). I own an instrument cluster which has similar problems like yours. It came from someone who tried to perform the firmware update and aborted the update before it was finished. Afterwards the screen turns black and nothing seems to work. The guy who did this had to buy and re-program another instrument cluster because he needs his car every day. Until now I have not been able to get it to work again. hello JW1982 I made inquiries in Europe and Asia are Visteon manufacturing, I used FTDI chips ELM327 USB, the connection speed is 500,000, but not be able to program success HEC 0509rom, where do you think there is a problem? Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preee Posted July 19, 2013 Author Share Posted July 19, 2013 Try setting the speed to 38400 for the HEC upgrade , 500,000 speed is for the PCM upgrade. The second point is there are many Rom's and your Asia Rom may not be compatible with a European 0509R ! Be Carefull ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preee Posted July 19, 2013 Author Share Posted July 19, 2013 Hi Preee, I have tried again without connecting to car. The only way I can carry out the speed test is if I set the speed to 38400 in the first screen (next to Com Port) any other higher speed fails. I carry out speed test and 500000 is ok (screen shot) set adaptor constant speed to 500000. next screen is the hard reset (screen shot) click OK. 'New speed was set reset adaptor to apply settings' (screen shot) I press OK and it all shuts down. I restart the speed is set at 500000 connect to car, ignition on, go to open port and it fails (see screen shot). I think the adaptor may be the problem but if you can though some more light on this before I use the link you sent me I would be most gratefull. Thank you I don't know how much further i can get as i can't test it , but i can get ELMCongfig to open once i have set 500,000 , i get the errors only if i change the connection speed to 38400 on ELMConfig IF it's been set to 500,000 before. If i want to go back to 38400 , then i open on 500,000 , run speed test then write 38400 to the elm327 , once it restarts i then open at 38400 and visa versa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimadgriff Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Has anyone come across an ELM wired differently? This one even has Pree stumped! I bought my ELM from here http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321149984280?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 but upon taking it apart, the wiring is different to all the ones that have been modified in the guides. It is as shown in the pictures below. It is almost like it is half modded to work with can? Any ideas? My pins are as follow :- 1 - No wire 2 - wire - has X's on it 3 - wire - vertical lines on it 4 - wire - long red line across it with a break in the line 5 - no wire going to it but solder is linked to pin 4 6 - no wire 7 - wire - long red line, with short red line, then a long one. 8 - no wire 9 - wire - random sections of red dots 10 - wire - broken red line 11 - wire - red dots all along it 12 - no wire 13 - no wire 14 - no wire 15 - wire- very faint red markings, cant really tell what it is 16 - no wire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preee Posted July 19, 2013 Author Share Posted July 19, 2013 Reading a little more about it , it appears to be a genuine ELM cable , although i thought they cost more !. Have you tried to connect to the MS-CAN (Gem) side with ELMConfig ? If it worked on the GEM side then it would simply be a case of reverse wiring 3/11 to 14/6 and not the other way around , thats if it worked on the GEM side of things , if not then i would not consider trying to modify it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimadgriff Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 The first thing I done when I got it, was pull it apart. I can give it a try tomorrow though. What programs do I need to download Pree? As there are so many links in the first thread! I did ask the seller if it was a Genuine ELM327 chip and he said it wasn't?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preee Posted July 19, 2013 Author Share Posted July 19, 2013 The first thing I done when I got it, was pull it apart. I can give it a try tomorrow though. What programs do I need to download Pree? As there are so many links in the first thread! I did ask the seller if it was a Genuine ELM327 chip and he said it wasn't?! Haha so he is advertizing a Fake! then even after pulling the clones down in his advert lmao. The program you need is ELMConfig in the first post Version 0.2.9 , you may need to send the commands to it , "Adapter setup" "setup to MS-CAN" If you get it to read , don't what ever you do try and write anything to your car as this adapter is not proven. Read Only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimadgriff Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Yep, a genuine Fake. LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clubber Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 Has anyone worked out how to use FDS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmetallica Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 Has anyone worked out how to use FDS? whats fds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimadgriff Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 Pree, I tried the odd ELM327 today (unmodified), It would bring up the HEC info but not configuration information as it said it needed to be set at a speed of 50000 but it wouldn't let me set it to this? It read the following info plus it read the VIN. When I selected MS-CAN it would just do the following, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preee Posted July 22, 2013 Author Share Posted July 22, 2013 Seems like it probably would not work even if you did modifiy it. One for the car boot sqle me thonks :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clubber Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 whats fds It's another configuration program, similar to ELMconfig, it's in the 1st post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmetallica Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 It's another configuration program, similar to ELMconfig, it's in the 1st post ah forgot about that.it just the same as elm ,but i think it had problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimadgriff Posted July 22, 2013 Share Posted July 22, 2013 Seems like it probably would not work even if you did modifiy it. One for the car boot sqle me thonks :) I will just keep this one for diagnostics and mod the other one I have. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Preee Posted July 22, 2013 Author Share Posted July 22, 2013 I will just keep this one for diagnostics and mod the other one I have. Good idea , at least you know you have a "Real Fake" ELM :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordSnick Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 Finnaly i got my usb elm today, modified it. And now i got autolocking doors. Since i have a Mondeo, I had to write the CCD to both modules, the ipc and bcm. :D Last time i could only write to the bcm module with the bluetooht adapter i had. Can't get the other things to work tough. One funny thing is that the original config for CCD in my car states that i don't have "home lights". I have 30 sec as standard on my car, but it wont let me config it so i can turn i off or change it to 60 sec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodge725 Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 I am wondering if there is anywhere I can purchase, an already modified elm327 USB device. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minimadgriff Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 With my other ELM I purchased I now have it all working and enabled things that my expensive IDS/VCM will not! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmetallica Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 any one know why this happens and why the elm cant run at that speed ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giwrgos_ath Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 guys, i recently finished modifing the elm, however i run into trouble. When i connect the cable to the car, none of the programs work. I've followed my checklist, however i receive a "CAN ERROR". * I've installed the drivers on the computer including the RuntimePack. * I've set the port to COM1 (Speed 38400) * I've been using this port and speed in all programs (ELMConfig, ELM-FF2_EN, FDS) * I've connected the cable to different usb ports * I've tried all three available states on the switch. Any suggestions or instructions would be much helpful. Also, i am still a bit confused overall. My questions are as following: 1. Why do we need the switch? What is the use of each state? 2. Which program should i use in order to read the configuration of the car and make alterations? (ELMConfig, ELM-FF2_EN, FDS) 3. Do i need to follow the instructions for Putty before the programs in order to establish a connection with the car? Thank you in advance. This is my attempt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeebowhite Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 CAN error is a communication error on the car I believe... Sounds like it doesnt want to talk! Is there not an OBDII port in the engine bay that you can try and communicate with? eliminate the possibility that its the drivers one being duff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giwrgos_ath Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Where would that OBDII port be located? I'm trying to connect to the port below the steering wheel. Would those programs work fine without running putty first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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