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#1 DJ_Andy_M

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 07:28 PM

Ok,

So I've got a 2008 Zetec, and a CD6000.

I'm going to rip that out and replace it with nice Ford Sony DAB head unit, and bluetooth and all the gubbins that go with it.

But i've run into a bit of a snag, and may result in my dealer getting a talking to...

Popped the radio out today to check to see what wiring I had going on as I don't have the bluetooth cabling that I can see, but thought I'd check from the back to see if anything goes anywhere... and bumped into a some issues.

1. The radio is 8M5T, but the rest of the loom is 7M5T (There was some stuff under the bonnet that was 8M5T too so I'm at a loss)
2. The radio wiring appears to have been cut, and some stuck back together with electrical tape. Wires were exposed when I pulled it forward (not to mention a loose screw)

So now I have a conundrum of what to do next, continue and hope I can achive what I want or go to the dealer with some b/s problem that required a radio reset and explain what I found.

I have a bluetooth unit with USB, so I'll go and get the appropriate radio and loom for that. I'm just concerned about this discovery.

Help? Please?

Andy

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#2 chris mitchell

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 09:04 PM

you can buy a patch loom from ford that connects to the original car loom and has all the connectors for the mic and nokia BT module. The loom is about £110.
The I have retro fitted a DAB radio to my car and the cars original BT and voice control still works as it did before with the none DAB Sony radio.
From what i can understand all the radio's can work with BT even your RDS6000 radio.

Its a shame your a fair bit away from me as i have a spare patch loom that you could of tried on your car>

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 09:32 AM

you can buy a patch loom from ford that connects to the original car loom and has all the connectors for the mic and nokia BT module. The loom is about £110.
The I have retro fitted a DAB radio to my car and the cars original BT and voice control still works as it did before with the none DAB Sony radio.
From what i can understand all the radio's can work with BT even your RDS6000 radio.

Its a shame your a fair bit away from me as i have a spare patch loom that you could of tried on your car>


Would you sell the spare patch loom?????

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Posted 04 May 2012 - 12:54 PM

you can buy a patch loom from ford that connects to the original car loom and has all the connectors for the mic and nokia BT module. The loom is about £110.
The I have retro fitted a DAB radio to my car and the cars original BT and voice control still works as it did before with the none DAB Sony radio.
From what i can understand all the radio's can work with BT even your RDS6000 radio.

Its a shame your a fair bit away from me as i have a spare patch loom that you could of tried on your car>


Where about's are you? I'm always up for a road trip!

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 01:01 PM

Where about's are you? I'm always up for a road trip!


Cuddington Cheshire or Speke in Liverpool at the bat cave :lol: (old metalbox factory)

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 09:37 PM

Sorry to hijack this post ,I have a 2008 zetec with a cd 6000. I am looking at fitting the Bluetooth to the radio so that I can make phone calls through radio. What parts do I need???

Thanks.

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 10:47 PM

A ford/Nokia bluetooth module, a mic and a patch loom from ford if you do not have the loom in the car and a different radio control stalk that has a "voice" button so you can use the voice control that part of the BT unit. In some cases the radio may need altering (programming)

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 10:49 PM

That is great. Do you know part numbers. Also where could. Get all this from.

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 10:55 PM

When im back at work tomorrow ill get you the part number for the patch loom from ford but be warned its not cheap! you will be looking to pay £100 +vat if you get ford emp discount or £120 + vat with no discount. Ebay is the best place to find the other bits like the BT module there approx £60-90. Keep an eye out for one from a 2010 focus ST as they mainly come with USB connection for ipod's etc

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 11:00 PM

Will take radio out tomorrow to see if the patch wire is there already. Thanks for your help.

I found this. Does this include what I need.

http://www.ebay.co.u...49#ht_720wt_922

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 07:20 AM

^^Thats the wrong mic for a focus i think, you need a circular one, so it will fit next to the light in the roof :) I fitted bluetooth about 2 months ago, was an easy job, i got the loom, module, mic and stalk off ebay for £120 :D.

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 12:27 PM

Yeah the Ebay link is for a Fiesta MK6.5

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 12:09 PM

Thanks for completely hijacking my topic and taking it right off topic!

Popped the radio out today to check to see what wiring I had going on as I don't have the bluetooth cabling that I can see, but thought I'd check from the back to see if anything goes anywhere... and bumped into a some issues.

1. The radio is 8M5T, but the rest of the loom is 7M5T (There was some stuff under the bonnet that was 8M5T too so I'm at a loss) - No matter, I have DAB Radio now, its an 8M5T.
2. The radio wiring appears to have been cut, and some stuck back together with electrical tape. Wires were exposed when I pulled it forward (not to mention a loose screw) - THIS IS A MASSIVE CONCERN, WHY????

So now I have a conundrum of what to do next, continue and hope I can achive what I want or go to the dealer with some b/s problem that required a radio reset and explain what I found.

I have a bluetooth unit with USB, so I'll go and get the appropriate radio and loom for that. I'm just concerned about this discovery. - Got the radio, just need to find me a loom, and microphone bits

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 12:24 PM

The numbers on the loom would not give me to much concern as there just like vauxhall. Use whet they have on the shelf at the time. I have also retro fitted dab and used a radio from a 2010 titanium in my 08 st. I bought the DAB aerial (you need the full thing and costs approx £55 for the lot) and it worked no problem. The 8m5t number relates to a month and year fot that part so its traceable to ford if there is any issue for recalls.
Just make sure the bare wires are covered and there back in the correct place.
Once you have the patch loom you will be able to connect the BT unit to the DAB radio no problem

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 12:38 PM

The numbers on the loom would not give me to much concern as there just like vauxhall. Use whet they have on the shelf at the time. I have also retro fitted dab and used a radio from a 2010 titanium in my 08 st. I bought the DAB aerial (you need the full thing and costs approx £55 for the lot) and it worked no problem. The 8m5t number relates to a month and year fot that part so its traceable to ford if there is any issue for recalls.
Just make sure the bare wires are covered and there back in the correct place.
Once you have the patch loom you will be able to connect the BT unit to the DAB radio no problem


Cheers :) I'm still concerned as to why I have cut cables though.

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