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#1 Simon098

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 05:38 PM

HI,

Has anyone had their version of this focus remapped? If so how much difference does it make?

Secondly, I'm having trouble finding remappers in Southampton or nearby. All the well known ones are up north and I was wondering if someone could recommend a company too me that is trust worthy.

Is it worth having it rolling road tested too?

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 06:33 PM

My mate does custom remaps so I'm looking into getting mine done soon, mine is the same engine as yours and he reckons approx 35-38 BHP gain, and around 50 newton meters of torque,,,, not bad going that, and 10-20% better on fuel too. So something I'm really interested in ;-)

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 06:49 PM

i'm interested to hear your results as i have a 1.8tdci too!

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 11:28 PM

My 1.8 tdci went from 115 to 148 with a Bluefin - verified on a DOT rolling road test.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 11:38 PM

My 1.8 tdci went from 115 to 148 with a Bluefin - verified on a DOT rolling road test.


So roughly the same figures I've been quoted.... I had a passat remapped a few years back and found the difference astounding,,, what was your reaction to your remap ? Is it ( as I think it will be ) very noticable, and have you actually seen a better return in fuel economy, once you got over the initial WOW factor lol.

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 01:19 AM

No noticable change to economy, still pretty much standard.
Much better acceleration and massively reduced turbo lag in low revs.
It goes uphill in 4th like a train and overtakes smoothly.
I personally think it runs better than my work car (2.5 estate) which was tuned by a police vehicle specialist due to usage as a response vehicle - then again the work one is much heavier due to fitted kit and a double dog carrier in the back.

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 02:11 AM

Did your car (before remap) have a flat spot sometimes when pulling out from junctions, kinda like, you pull out then car seemed to dip, then go again ??? Mine does this sometimes, making me have to give it a few extra revs to make sure I make it out in one piece lol. Also noticed a slight flat spot around 2k revs, although I'm not sure if this is where the turbo kicks in. Either way, if this is normal I'm hoping the remap will iron out these issues.

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 02:37 AM

You do find that you need to give the revs a bit of a poke to pull away at times.
The lag at 2k is standard beforr the turbo kicks in.
My remap reduced that greatly.


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Posted 03 May 2012 - 08:34 AM

Cheers Stoney ;-)

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 09:05 AM

This may be a stupid question, but why don't the manufactures have the engine mapped for the improvements re-mapping achieves, or in other words what are the downsides to re-mapping. :blink:

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 09:18 AM

Something to do with emissions, and EU legislation blah blah, its all babble really. There aren't really any drawbacks to a standard remap, its if you start going futher, then you need to start looking at strenghtening enging internals etc, but a standard car is easliy able to cope with the extra gains from a remap.

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 02:24 PM

Engine maps are set to account for varying fuel quality within the wider European area.

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 06:58 PM

A decent mapper should see 145bhp from the 1.8, the limiting factor is the head design, it cant flow enough air for much more, the engine design hasnt really changed since its original 55bhp, non turbo application!!

I had the 1.8, and RS Tuning in leeds had a great map for it, my mate had a bluefin, and the DynoDynamics rolling road read his car at 118bhp as standard and 129 with bluefin... its worth getting it RR'd before and after, as all RR's are different, and a lot of remap/tuning box manufacturers will quote the figures they get without RR'ing beforehand. Bluefin is one that does to be fair, i think their standard 1.8 hit 119bhp standard and 139bhp remapped... so its more important to look at the increase than the final figure which is 20bhp, so realiticly expect 135 bhp... See the link below for their RR Graph.

http://www.mybluefin...dci115bhp-d.pdf

Custom remaps, In My Opinion may I add, are better than generic ones, as the car is tweaked on the rolling road, and made sure it runs right.

I've been out in an RS Tuned 145bhp Focus, and My God!!! was it quick. you surprise many a car with it... however, now to the downside...

Many people i have spoken to, and it also happened to me, Have had the High Pressure Fuel Pumps break up, and destroy the fuel system... Goodbye £2-3000... Not heard of it happening that often on untuned ones.

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 07:51 PM

A decent mapper should see 145bhp from the 1.8, the limiting factor is the head design, it cant flow enough air for much more, the engine design hasnt really changed since its original 55bhp, non turbo application!!

I had the 1.8, and RS Tuning in leeds had a great map for it, my mate had a bluefin, and the DynoDynamics rolling road read his car at 118bhp as standard and 129 with bluefin... its worth getting it RR'd before and after, as all RR's are different, and a lot of remap/tuning box manufacturers will quote the figures they get without RR'ing beforehand. Bluefin is one that does to be fair, i think their standard 1.8 hit 119bhp standard and 139bhp remapped... so its more important to look at the increase than the final figure which is 20bhp, so realiticly expect 135 bhp... See the link below for their RR Graph.

http://www.mybluefin...dci115bhp-d.pdf

Custom remaps, In My Opinion may I add, are better than generic ones, as the car is tweaked on the rolling road, and made sure it runs right.

I've been out in an RS Tuned 145bhp Focus, and My God!!! was it quick. you surprise many a car with it... however, now to the downside...

Many people i have spoken to, and it also happened to me, Have had the High Pressure Fuel Pumps break up, and destroy the fuel system... Goodbye £2-3000... Not heard of it happening that often on untuned ones.


i was getting really excited until you mentioned the downside, cheers Dave! :unsure:

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 08:02 PM

hey i did 130,000 miles on a tuning box... and to be fair i blame that more than anything...

A proper remap takes fuel pressure readings into account, and the ECU will still react to issues... A Tuning box confuses the ECU into thinking pressures are low, so it ramps up pressure, thinking everything is ok...

Also dont forget, you only ever hear bad things, noone ever just pops up on the internet and says "Hello, My car is all fine, no issues" people only really use the internet when there are problems, or to find out info, never to praise...

I loved the extra shove mine had on a box, and that was only an extra 11 BHP and 30lbft... but it made a hell of a difference, once my car is out of warranty period, its getting mapped... but properly this time, on a rolling road...

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