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Blagger89

Replacement Key Fobs

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Hey all. I'm new here cause I'm a little bit confused from browsing google and other sites.

My 2002 Ford Focus Zetec came with 2 keys, one remote fob with the 3 buttons, and a standard key.

My main remote key is pretty worn and won't open the bonnet now, and takes alot of effort to turn the ignition, so without me causing any further damage to the ignition barrel i've started using my spare key. Not an issue.

I want to get a new spare key, preferably a remote fob and i've been reading that i can buy a key and can programme it myself to use the central locking and then programme the immobiliser. However, it states that I need at least 2 working keys.

I am understanding this as two remote keys, if not, then this is perfect and I hopefully can get a new remote keyand programme them myself without having to go to the dealer and paying £100+.

I have attached a picture of my keys as I've read theres blue chip and red chips and its boggled my mind.

If anyone can offer any advice that would be great!

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Hi Dan,

Welcome to the Forum.

To answer your questions - yes you can programme the keys yourself.

The two keys you currently have are the original keys so you can use them to add more.

As you have a worn key blade (Tibbe type to be precise) you can easily get a replacement blade cut.

Any Ford mechanic and most key cutting places can read your key blade by eye (it's down to the depth of the notches) and replicate it exactly.

There are sellers on eBay that will cut a new blade to your code and it will simply clip onto your existing 3 button fob.

This seller will cut the blade for you if you get the code read first by the procedure stated above.

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item336ce7aeb3

Once you have the new blade fitted then you can turn it in the ignition again to programme a new key.

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item5ae495c680

I know you will get a new blade with the above listed key but if you buy two blades cut from the first link i listed then you will be ready to go as soon as the parts are together and have a spare blade for a rainy day.

To programme the spare key you just need to put the first original key into the ignition and turn from 0 to II and back - remove and repeat with the second original key then repeat with the new key.

This will add the key to the PATSII immobiliser system.

To programme the new key to the central locking you need to shut the doors and put the new key into the ignition and turn from 0 to II 4 times in reasonably fast succession, this will activate the learning phase and you will know if it's successful if the car bongs at you.

All you have to do then is press any button on the new key and the car should bong again.

Wait 20 seconds or so for the car to exit the learning phase and all should be good.

(I was advised by ta mechanic to clip the seatbelt too while programming but never found that necessary myself on my old V reg Focus).

Just to advise you that yes, this seems a bit of a run around for a spare key but Ford will charge you a hell of a lot more to supply and code a key for you and will take forever so as to get more labour charges from you for a job that should take no more than 20 minutes to do.

Auto locksmiths are cheaper but in this case why pay any more than you need to.

Of course if you want to take one more step get one of these -

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item1e6cdd5d3e

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Thanks for the swift reply, the 2nd ebay link comes with the fob and blank key blade so i'll purchase that as i can't find the T number anywhere for the first link.

So once purchased I could effectively take to Timpsons and get them to copy the blade on my spare key which is in near perfect condition, then reprogramme.

Sounds easy enough.

Cheers!

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Thanks for the info, my fob is on the way out and the flip looks the way to go!


Hat doffed to you for the info. :)

fastmedic

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Would this still work if the only key I had was the spare (lost the original years ago)? Looking at getting the keyfob sorted finally - and a Ford dealer was quoting a ridiculous amount for it, so just tempted to do it myself now.

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If you only have one key then to get another one for your car you need it programming by a professional.

Avoid Ford as they charge dumb amounts.

The cheapest way is to get a new replacement key off ebay and call a couple of local Auto Locksmiths for quotes to cut the key blade and code the key to the immobiliser.

You should be looking at less than £100 all in compared to paying that to Ford for the obligatory diagnostics they seem to insist on before doing anything else.

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What model and age Ford do you have anyway?

Let me know and I'll point you to the key you need.

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It's a Ford Focus LX, 56 plates (2006/7). Will have to look around then to get a key cut and it programmed.

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Stoney871. Instructions for associating keys really got me out of a jam. Thanks!

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This is a great few posts. Very helpful

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Hey all. New to forum today. I've got a 2013 focus zetec s which is push button start etc. only got 1 key fob. Ford want £229 for a new fob and £99 for the programming of the fob. Can these fobs be bought and programmed anywhere else for a lot less than Ford??

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I've got 2 keys but NO key code. Is there a way I can find out the code

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This is how to read a Tibbe key.

Start from the fob end and you'll get your 6 digit T code.

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On 29/10/2013 at 3:46 PM, Stoney871 said:

If you only have one key then to get another one for your car you need it programming by a professional.

Avoid Ford as they charge dumb amounts.

The cheapest way is to get a new replacement key off ebay and call a couple of local Auto Locksmiths for quotes to cut the key blade and code the key to the immobiliser.

You should be looking at less than £100 all in compared to paying that to Ford for the obligatory diagnostics they seem to insist on before doing anything else.

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I fear I am in the same boat as Katkitty24. I have lost the remote fob to my 55 plate Focus, so just to clarify, it will need to go to an auto key specialist (NOT a dealership) for them to programme the new blade to the car? 

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I have a similar issue. 

I bought a 2003 Focus LX with the standard 3 button fob, and basic key with the blue chip on the plastic. The fob has never worked and upon taking it to a locksmith they have advised the chip and the electrical mechanism has corroded due to being submerged in water. So the chip is knackard.

Can I buy a blank fob, with blank chip and reprogram myself? Ford have quoted £74.00 for the actual gen ford fob and £90 to reprogram (these are at discounted prices to as I work with an Ex Ford Dealership Manager. I begrudge paying it so want to know if its easier to do this myself, if so... how?

Any help would be appreciated. 

Cheers. 

Clint

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4 hours ago, focusman03 said:

I bought a 2003 Focus LX

 

4 hours ago, focusman03 said:

Can I buy a blank fob, with blank chip and reprogram myself?

As this is a Mk1 Focus, it should be possible to do the PATS (immobiliser) programming yourself. The handbook should give instructions, they are also on the net. I think there were two variants, one with a master PATS key (colour coded), and a later variant that needed at least two working PATS keys (ie will start the car).

Note that the remote control that does the central locking is almost entirely separate from the PATS system, and is easy to add keys to. So you do not need any working remote control fobs to do the PATS programming.

On the Mk2 Focus, it got harder, and a computer connected to the diagnostic socket is needed to do PATS. The Mk3 is worse again. Ford dealer monopoly there.

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That's brilliant. I'll look to get a blank one. I'm just worried I'll mess up the reprogramming and jam the working keys. 

 

The two keys I have, fob and normal key blades are fine. I'd just like the ease of the remote as the boot release from inside of the car has stopped working. 

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I only have the spare key and want to get a fob can I buy any blank key of eBay and take it to a professional to do the coding

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On 17/11/2016 at 10:25 PM, focusman03 said:

I'm just worried I'll mess up the reprogramming and jam the working keys. 

 

On 18/11/2016 at 1:36 AM, sisqo67 said:

can I buy any blank key of eBay and take it to a professional to do the coding

I would check that you have someone local willing to cut the keys. Some key sellers offer to cut the keys (for a very reasonable price) if you supply the key T Code. It is quite easy to read one of those TIbbe keys, there are quite a few internet sites showing how to do it. (Google "reading tibbe key") A friendly garage may do it free, just by looking at it.

*Edit*: I recalled that Clive (Stoney871) had said he could read Tibbe codes, but had not twigged on that it was in this thread above, on August 24, 2014. So just scroll back up!

The coding for both the remote and the PATS (immobiliser) is done in the car, not in the key. Both procedures are in the owners manual for the Mk1 Focus.

Unfortunately, if you only have One key, it is more difficult. You should be able to get the remote fob working ok, but not the PATS, so it will unlock, but not start the car. Some sellers & locksmiths appear to be able to "Clone" keys, they would need the original to do this. This is not the normal way, and there are problems. The clone will not appear to the car as a second key, and so the manual procedures below will not work using it. Otherwise it is probably a Ford dealer job. Forscan MAY be able to do it, but it is not very easy, with no guarantee.

The relevant pages from a 2004 Manual are below.

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On ‎18‎/‎11‎/‎2016 at 2:18 PM, Tdci-Peter said:

I would check that you have someone local willing to cut the keys. Some key sellers offer to cut the keys (for a very reasonable price) if you supply the key T Code. It is quite easy to read one of those TIbbe keys, there are quite a few internet sites showing how to do it. (Google "reading tibbe key") A friendly garage may do it free, just by looking at it.

The coding for both the remote and the PATS (immobiliser) is done in the car, not in the key. Both procedures are in the owners manual for the Mk1 Focus.

Unfortunately, if you only have One key, it is more difficult. You should be able to get the remote fob working ok, but not the PATS, so it will unlock, but not start the car. Some sellers & locksmiths appear to be able to "Clone" keys, they would need the original to do this. This is not the normal way, and there are problems. The clone will not appear to the car as a second key, and so the manual procedures below will not work using it. Otherwise it is probably a Ford dealer job. Forscan MAY be able to do it, but it is not very easy, with no guarantee.

 

 

I've done a bit of digging and have found I can buy a virgin transponder chip, that will go into my fob. The fob itself is fine, but the chip is totally knackered. Would this work if I recoded it myself using the system above?

 

 

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, focusman03 said:

and have found I can buy a virgin transponder chip,

Unfortunately the in-car PATS programming procedure given above needs two different transponder chips, that are both already stored in the car's memory, before it will programe a 3rd one. It is Ford's idea of security, in case a car is stolen with one key, I suppose, whereas in theory a valid owner should have two. In practice many owners have only one, and the crooks know all the tricks how to clone or programme more.

So if you only have one working PATS transponder, I think you will have to phone around local Ford garages & locksmiths for a good deal, or go down the Forscan route. Getting Forscan can cost under £15, and people here can help, if you want to try that way, though I have never used the Forscan PATS procedures myself.

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