Mathew Pritt Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 i need to get inside the rear brakes to fix them but i have no idea how to, there seems to be no centre hub screw or no cap covering it so i dont know what to do?????? can anyone please help my car is a 2006 zetec 1.6 petrol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomo2001 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 When you remove the wheel is it by removing nuts or studs ? If its just nuts does the drum slide over the studs which are fixed to the hub and then the brake drum just removes leaving the studs in place ? You may find that if the shoes are adjusted close to the inside of the drum it can be a bit of a struggle getting the drums off. Obviously make sure the handbrake is off lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney871 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 According to Haynes, there may be a spring clip on one of the hub bolts that needs prising off first. The drum should then pull off. If the drum is reluctant to move, use two 8mm bolts in the threaded holes and draw the drum off. Also prop the car and ensure the hand brake is off to release the brake pad tension from the drum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artscot79 Posted June 13, 2012 Share Posted June 13, 2012 when i had my rear wheels off the drum slips off didnt have ant=y retaining clip though it may have not been refitted in the past spin the drum and it will just slide off over the studs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witchaven Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 According to Haynes, there may be a spring clip on one of the hub bolts that needs prising off first. The drum should then pull off. If the drum is reluctant to move, use two 8mm bolts in the threaded holes and draw the drum off. Also prop the car and ensure the hand brake is off to release the brake pad tension from the drum. My Haynes says the same. Unfortunately, either it's wrong or there are two variants of drum for the mk2 Focus (in which case the Haynes manual is incomplete). There are 4x TX-50 torx bolts (maybe 13mm bolts on some variants) at the back of the hub assembly that must be removed. These can be tricky to get to and will require the use of an extension bar. Once removed the drum can be pulled off along with the hub assembly. The hub assembly is either integral with the drum or is pressed in to it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney871 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Haynes does seem to be a bit slack on some details. They get quite a few things wrong or at least aren't as accurate as they could be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 You're right Clive, Haynes have gone downhill big-time in recent years, dumbing down their manuals so much that I find they're really only useful for technical specs and torque settings these days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witchaven Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 Agree with you re Haynes. I remember looking at a Haynes manual years ago and was astounded by the level of detail and the pictures. Bought one for my wifes car a couple of years ago and was severly dissappointed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JW1982 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 There are 2 types of brake drums used for the Focus MK2 and MK2.5. There is one type with threaded holes and the other type does not have threaded holes. I had to remove the brake drums when I did the disc brake conversion. Unfortunately my drums were the type without the threaded holes. Despite my rear wheelhubs were changed 2 years ago my drums were seized on the wheelhubs and did not come loose. I used a big pulley puller to remove the drums of the hubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmetallica Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 There are 2 types of brake drums used for the Focus MK2 and MK2.5. There is one type with threaded holes and the other type does not have threaded holes. I had to remove the brake drums when I did the disc brake conversion. Unfortunately my drums were the type without the threaded holes. Despite my rear wheelhubs were changed 2 years ago my drums were seized on the wheelhubs and did not come loose. I used a big pulley puller to remove the drums of the hubs. did you do a how to on disc conversion ? some thing im thinking of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JW1982 Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I made a HowTo in Dutch but if there is enough demand I can translate it to English. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmetallica Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 I made a HowTo in Dutch but if there is enough demand I can translate it to English. id like to see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martyntdci Posted September 17, 2013 Share Posted September 17, 2013 you want a how to....... here been trawling for a good half a hour Replacing rear drum brake shoes - Focus Hacks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JW1982 Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 id like to see it I translated my Dutch HowTo to English. Because I had little time it may be that some grammatic is not correct. The English HowTo (PDF) can be downloaded from the following site: http://rapidshare.com/share/FC61CE4464F8D287ED555C19D14A5342 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurcayy Posted September 20, 2013 Share Posted September 20, 2013 Thank you very much JW1982. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmetallica Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 it gets to 1.9 % then wont go any further Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmetallica Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 cant get it to down load.any one had any luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JW1982 Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 I tried to download my HowTo on another computer and it downloaded without problems. I uploaded the HowTo also to another website. You can also download it from the following link: http://www.mijnbestand.nl/Bestand-MFLCP6A4VCRH.pdf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmetallica Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 I tried to download my HowTo on another computer and it downloaded without problems. I uploaded the HowTo also to another website. You can also download it from the following link: http://www.mijnbestand.nl/Bestand-MFLCP6A4VCRH.pdf thank you got it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phecabooth Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Hey, is anyone still around here? I live in the UK, I have a 2005 mk2 Focus 1.6 Petrol hatchback. I bought the Haynes Manual when I purchased as my first car, to learn on and get into cars and understanding mechanical things. My rear driverside brake drums are rubbing, so I thinking of renewing the brakes and changing the Wheel hubs/bearings if I am already there. Looks fairly simple, but while the manual says, both printed and online, that the width of the shoes are 38mm and 228 in diameter, the only part I find the width is 42mm or ever 43 mm and 228mm in diameter. I found one of the smaller shoes of 38mm in width but those diameter is only 203mm. As I am new to this, can I trust the huge selection of shoes and maybe the manual is misprinted or because it is an early model MK2, could use different sized brakes? So far, it looks like I have to take it apart to confirm the physical size of the shoes. Have any of you guys run into similar problems where you find different stats and just made you confused? Any advice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unofix Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 26 minutes ago, Phecabooth said: Have any of you guys run into similar problems where you find different stats and just made you confused? Welcome to the world of car maintenance. It's not unusual for information to be "not quite right". As you have already said, the only fool proof way to be sure is take your brakes apart and see what has been fitted. Good luck with the bearing change, if I remember correctly they are a press fit to the drum, so you will need access to a press to get them out and back in again. It is a good idea to replace them while you have the drums off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScaniaPBman Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 If the wheel bearings are anything like they are on my MK2 the bearing and hub are one complete unit held on by 4 torx cap screws accessible from the rear of the backplate like this random example off eBay. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161081368682?amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAA8EhVMmI8IxeZjlqhHPTCPTBridOSxoBQSByaTrfwOpk9zZ2XrK%2B70q4p1MNjQC6UEywpwmgvYBcu%2FYEz8SrNJ1Icr3DgQw2TF7zdnM03tuQngfKfwK6pIYj2eGMWoclBwiIcsH6JGswPe%2B%2FVW%2B1u%2BdwjON0nWzRpHyyg6DACcGMAG7k92A9Jy1tujjpnZEiMJI0N%2BUcf75GYumbQIn9WgEb8MkQsSexn2Vh%2BftmIkByDcIcsnnz6RSfA9jOYCWrk4mqMJYN9qlaQHVtvBlRPhGVFKCaiGZsojmx4yusjLzFZEht7Po7X2rnikO0qWskbgg%3D%3D|tkp%3ABFBM4vel66lg My advice is to get EXACTLY the correct torx socket/driver for the 4 retaining screws. They are difficult to access at the best of times and you don't want the hassle which will result from rounding off the screw head. Mine were very rusty and tight to break loose. As for the brake shoes, they seemed a standard size, the ones i got from the shop fitted perfectly. Take your old ones with you when you make your purchase to be sure. Hint. Check that your slave cylinder is not corroded internally. When my Left hand drum was rubbing, the slave piston had seized up in the bore. ScaniaPBman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isetta Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 You might find you don’t need shoes and just need to lubricate some moving parts eg cable , mechanism pivots , just take it apart and see what’s going on in there before you buy anything. Brake shows can often last the life of a car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unofix Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Just confirming that the wheel bearing is a press fit it to the Brake Drum, it's different to a Focus Mk2. See picture of the Drum without the bearing fitted: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/174430239659?epid=25041551891&hash=item289cda3bab:g:rbEAAOSwJCJfV~5k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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