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#1 clubber

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 05:11 PM

What do I need to retrofit auto lights and wipers to my facelift 2008 ST?

Anyone done it? Do you have the finis codes?

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 06:27 PM

i believe pree has done it and has a guide

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Posted 26 September 2012 - 07:51 PM

I can't find a guide for it in the focus guides section or in Preees guides. Do you have a link?

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 09:32 PM

Rising up and oldie. I'm doing some research on retrofitting auto lights, not bothered about auto wipers not that great. Did preee actually fit it because i cannot find the guide myself



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Posted 12 July 2013 - 06:48 AM

Have a look at this topic. I haven't fitted mine yet. Event though i have all the parts, i never found the time to do it. I might give it a try this weekend.



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Posted 12 July 2013 - 07:33 AM

I have a Ghia, so it has these as standard. I must say, although auto lights are nice, I would not miss them, but the auto wipers are great, whenever there was light or intermittent rain, I was always adjusting the intermittent wipers manualy on my previous cars, and still was not happy with the wipe interval, lt was always not right for the conditions. The auto wipers are not foolproof, but most of the time they adjust to the wipe speed/interval required perfectly, and I don't have to fret any more.

 

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 03:04 PM

Thanks for the replies George and Phil. I had a good read of the forum, i will take a look and see if i have the loom, if not it will make my life a lot harder. Not sure about the sensors and what i will actually need. Is the sensor and mirror one unit or separate? will i need to purchase a new mirror? not clear from the post.

 

George or Phill if you get the time it would be really helpful if you could get some pics of the items you already have. I don't know what the auto wipers/light sensors and mirror look like compared to a car without so kind of going in blind when it comes to shopping. Ideally i'm only going after Auto lights, not fussed if i end up with auto wipers that would be a bonus



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Posted 12 July 2013 - 04:26 PM

Id be interested in more info on this

 

etis tells me my car came with 'with auto headlamps' but 'less headlamp control' so im guessing i just need all the sensors and switch ?



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Posted 12 July 2013 - 05:29 PM

I took a look at the car and i believe i have the needed wiring.

 

On the left is what i suspect to be the loom for the sensors on the windscreen, on the right is the loom for bluetooth mic

 

 
Now only need a clear list of what parts to purchase i would be really greatful if anyone can show me a picture or a link of what the sensor unit actually look like or part number.
 
Is the unit for the automatic light and rain sensor one whole unit or two separate?
 
How is it attached to the windscreen?


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Posted 12 July 2013 - 07:36 PM

auto headlamps does not refer to what you think it refers to the fact if you switch the ignition off and pull the main beam on the lights will light the way then auto off after 30 secs



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Posted 12 July 2013 - 08:02 PM

auto headlamps does not refer to what you think it refers to the fact if you switch the ignition off and pull the main beam on the lights will light the way then auto off after 30 secs

 

That's follow me home lights mate and it isn't what i am after :P thank you though.

 

Just like to say the above picture is not the correct wire/connector for auto light or rain sensor



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Posted 12 July 2013 - 08:21 PM

The rain sensor (positioned just below the mounting lug for the rear view mirror) is used by both Auto-Wipers and Auto-Lamps.
 
Pinout for the Rain Sensor Connector (located next to mirror mounting)
  C526-1 Green/Black +12v      to C98-11  (PJB) - this is ignition controlled via F100 (10A)
  C526-3 White/Green Signal   to C98-12 (PJB)
  C526-2 Black/Green Ground to C98-4   (PJB)
 
The C98 connector is the small square one that plugs into the top L/H corner of the PJB (Passenger Junction Box) next to fuses F100, F101 and F102.
 
In the image of C98 below I've marked the relevant wires from the 3-pin rain sensor connector (C526) with a blue dot.
 
C98 Connector

 

Depending upon the original specification of your Focus you may need to replace the PJB as the Autolamps relay is an internal component and may not be fitted to all versions of the PJB.

 

H.T.H.

 

@George

The large grey plug on the supplementary Mondeo harness doesn't look right for a Focus Mk2.5 PJB; compare the number of pins from the image of C98 above to the Mondeo's plug - it has only two rows of pins (and is too long) rather than the three rows required by the Focus Mk2.5


Edited by Captain Haddock, 12 July 2013 - 08:31 PM.


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Posted 12 July 2013 - 08:24 PM

nope on the ford etis its auto headlamps asked ford a long time ago it doesnt have any thing to do with auto headlights it means they switch off automatically when main beams put on follow me home lights come on automatically when exiting the car at night and stay on after the cars locked for 30 secs completely different setups



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Posted 12 July 2013 - 08:28 PM

nope on the ford etis its auto headlamps asked ford a long time ago it doesnt have any thing to do with auto headlights

Thank you dude, i understand what you are saying now.

 

Here is my reply to the other thread if anyone may need help with this, in my many research i dug up two threads covering the same subject(Did not start a third :D) but this should fully end all questions about it for anyone fitting it!

 

 

Thank you very much  :D i have been doing a lot of research all day and i have concluded all that is needed and this list is good. I don't know about the stalk for as i know the normal stalk for interval will adjust the sensitivity of the auto wipers.

 

The loom i won't need, nor do i think anyone else will either(Should already be there), the rest yes.

 

The above picture from my previous post is NOT the auto wipers/light loom that is incorrect.

 

This is the correct loom/connector for the auto wipers/light

 

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I am very confident that we all have the loom it took me a long time to find it because mine was wedged in a blob of glue behind some other loom under tape, it was very well hidden and hard to get out, took me some time with a flashlight cutting and pulling away the cable from the glue.
 
These two cables are directly in front of the lights under the bit of headliner between the windscreen and lights. Laid down flat in a blob of glue, it's worth having something sharp to peal away the tape and glue when checking for the loom.
 
The cables with the white connector is for the automatic dimming mirror and the cable with black connector is for the rain and light sensor.  The cable with black connector shown in my previous photo is for alarm sensor that goes into the light on some ST/RS model
 
Now i am a 100% sure i have the needed looms and the parts required, will get the parts soon and update after the install


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Posted 13 July 2013 - 07:31 AM

Rob, Thanks for the info. I'll have a look around today to see if i've got the loom hidden. I am sure that the parts i've got will still be compatible, even if have to get a new loom. correct?

 

Kurt, if i recall correctly, you will have to reprogram the car in order for the auto headlights to work.

 

Admins, could we merge those two topics? We will soon upload some more images from the installation.



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