Jump to content


Photo

Battery Light Comes On & Goes Out - Any Auto Electrician In Bedford?


  • Please log in to reply
20 replies to this topic

#1 SalahJ

SalahJ

    Newbie

  • New Member
  • Pip
  • 9 posts
  • Ford Model: 2003 Focus Ghia 2 Litre Petrol Auto
  • Location: Bedfordshire

Posted 21 October 2012 - 01:10 PM

I'm a newbie Focus owner. Last week I bought in a lovely 53 reg 2.0 Litre Ghia Automatic privately. I don't know much about Focuses as it's my first one. So I'd really appreciate your help.

Last night while driving, suddenly the red battery light on the dash started to come on, staying on for a few minutes then going out for few minutes to come back on again. However, the car was driving normally and headlamps were working fine.

Today I did some Googling and what I learned is it's a common problem in Focuses and it could be one of the three -
1. Bad alternator. 2. Bad ground connection. 3. Bad pcm.

I hope it's just a bad ground wiring as last night it didn't stall and drove 15 miles back home.

I don't have necessary equipments to check the voltage. I reckon it should be checked by someone who knows his stuff.

Can you guys suggest any electrician/garage from in or around Bedford where I can go and won't be ripped off?

Thanks all.

Have something to contribute?

Sign in or register to start a topic...



Sign up to FOC Premium Membership To Remove These Ads

#2 DaveRushton

DaveRushton

    Feet Under The Table

  • Budding Enthusiast
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 100 posts
  • Name: David
  • Ford Model: Focus Titanium X TDCi
  • Year: 2011
  • Location: Buckinghamshire

Posted 21 October 2012 - 03:29 PM

Just ring your breakdown cover people and ask them to come sort it. They prob wouldnt replace much but they know what to check, could be a loose/damaged wire etc.

#3 SalahJ

SalahJ

    Newbie

  • New Member
  • Pip
  • 9 posts
  • Ford Model: 2003 Focus Ghia 2 Litre Petrol Auto
  • Location: Bedfordshire

Posted 21 October 2012 - 03:47 PM

Just ring your breakdown cover people and ask them to come sort it. They prob wouldnt replace much but they know what to check, could be a loose/damaged wire etc.


I drove 15 miles back home with the battery warning light coming on/off, it didn't stall. Had the heater and headlamps on and they worked fine too. I reckon the breakdown won't turn up if the car is driveable.

#4 artscot79

artscot79

    Ford Enthusiast

  • True Ford Enthusiast
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 7,943 posts
  • Name: arthur
  • Ford Model: focus mk2 ti-vct
  • Year: 2006
  • Location: Fife

Posted 21 October 2012 - 04:44 PM

it can also be a faulty cell in the battery as well as the dash cluster at fault

#5 SalahJ

SalahJ

    Newbie

  • New Member
  • Pip
  • 9 posts
  • Ford Model: 2003 Focus Ghia 2 Litre Petrol Auto
  • Location: Bedfordshire

Posted 21 October 2012 - 05:47 PM

it can also be a faulty cell in the battery as well as the dash cluster at fault


As I said in my OP, I bought this car only last week I didn't know much about Focuses and their smart charge mechanism then. Today I looked at the battery and it's a RAC battery and charge indicator showed green.

I'd really appreciate if anyone can suggest me a good garage in Bedford area where I can go and get it checked/fixed.

#6 DaveRushton

DaveRushton

    Feet Under The Table

  • Budding Enthusiast
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 100 posts
  • Name: David
  • Ford Model: Focus Titanium X TDCi
  • Year: 2011
  • Location: Buckinghamshire

Posted 21 October 2012 - 08:03 PM

I rang green flag because when driving my car kept saying the bonnet was open, they came out and sorted it straight away!

#7 artscot79

artscot79

    Ford Enthusiast

  • True Ford Enthusiast
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 7,943 posts
  • Name: arthur
  • Ford Model: focus mk2 ti-vct
  • Year: 2006
  • Location: Fife

Posted 21 October 2012 - 08:33 PM

if its an rac battery is it silver calcium if not that could be the issue there the battery should say if its calcium or silver calcium if its a lead acid battery its no good if its an rac exide premium then its a calcium battery

i would avoid an auto electricien and go to ford ive seen auto electricians who dont know much about smart charge either and will tell you it needs this or that and doesnt solve the issue if you want to save money take it to ford they know more about the smart charge than many garages half of them wont even know what it is

#8 SalahJ

SalahJ

    Newbie

  • New Member
  • Pip
  • 9 posts
  • Ford Model: 2003 Focus Ghia 2 Litre Petrol Auto
  • Location: Bedfordshire

Posted 22 October 2012 - 09:25 AM

if its an rac battery is it silver calcium if not that could be the issue there the battery should say if its calcium or silver calcium if its a lead acid battery its no good if its an rac exide premium then its a calcium battery

i would avoid an auto electricien and go to ford ive seen auto electricians who dont know much about smart charge either and will tell you it needs this or that and doesnt solve the issue if you want to save money take it to ford they know more about the smart charge than many garages half of them wont even know what it is


The battery doesn't say what type it is or may be I just missed it. I'll take a photo of the battery and post it here.

If I go to Ford I reckon they'll charge me a fortune. That's why I am looking for a garage where I won't have to pay the dealer price.

#9 artscot79

artscot79

    Ford Enthusiast

  • True Ford Enthusiast
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 7,943 posts
  • Name: arthur
  • Ford Model: focus mk2 ti-vct
  • Year: 2006
  • Location: Fife

Posted 22 October 2012 - 11:29 AM

to be honest fords prices are not that bad and usually they find the fault 1st time other garages will replace 4-5 parts before finding the fault so in the end you pay more..using the dash test you can check most of it youreself such as the alternator charge rate and battery voltage or any garage wil do a freee battery and alternator test for you to rule those out

#10 SalahJ

SalahJ

    Newbie

  • New Member
  • Pip
  • 9 posts
  • Ford Model: 2003 Focus Ghia 2 Litre Petrol Auto
  • Location: Bedfordshire

Posted 22 October 2012 - 11:41 AM

to be honest fords prices are not that bad and usually they find the fault 1st time other garages will replace 4-5 parts before finding the fault so in the end you pay more..using the dash test you can check most of it youreself such as the alternator charge rate and battery voltage or any garage wil do a freee battery and alternator test for you to rule those out


I'll do a dash test to see what comes up.

#11 johnH

johnH

    Ford Enthusiast

  • Moderator
  • 1,137 posts
  • Name: John
  • Ford Model: Focus mk2 Zetec 1.8 TDCI (Climate)
  • Year: 2006
  • Location: Tyne and Wear
Contributor

Posted 22 October 2012 - 09:11 PM

check the voltage using the dash test feature.

engine off: 12.5v
engine on: 14.5v

if these are correct then your battery and alternator are fine. and suspect is wiring on smart charge loom.

ive had this issue in the past. i bought a new battery and alternator to find it was wiring. it only cost around £120 for dealer to fix.

#12 SalahJ

SalahJ

    Newbie

  • New Member
  • Pip
  • 9 posts
  • Ford Model: 2003 Focus Ghia 2 Litre Petrol Auto
  • Location: Bedfordshire

Posted 22 October 2012 - 10:01 PM

check the voltage using the dash test feature.

engine off: 12.5v
engine on: 14.5v

if these are correct then your battery and alternator are fine. and suspect is wiring on smart charge loom.

ive had this issue in the past. i bought a new battery and alternator to find it was wiring. it only cost around £120 for dealer to fix.


Thanks a lot, that's really helpful. I tried to do the dash test today but couldn't make much sense out of it. May be I'm too new to it.

The only thing I understood is that it showed dtc 262, 9318 and 9317. 9318 is high battery voltage and 9317 is low battery voltage. I'm a bit intrigued why and how the battery voltage can be both high and low at the same time.

I'll try it afresh tomorrow and post it here.

#13 roughend

roughend

    Newbie

  • New Member
  • Pip
  • 1 posts
  • Ford Model: ST170
  • Location: Conwy

Posted 23 October 2012 - 05:37 PM

Had the same problem come to a head a couple of weeks ago, had the system checked at a local garage and they confirmed that the battery voltage was too low, although engine was starting and running without any problems over a period of 2 months - replaced battery and everythings fine.

#14 artscot79

artscot79

    Ford Enthusiast

  • True Ford Enthusiast
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 7,943 posts
  • Name: arthur
  • Ford Model: focus mk2 ti-vct
  • Year: 2006
  • Location: Fife

Posted 23 October 2012 - 05:55 PM

DTC 262 "missing SCP message" converts directly to OBD-II code U1262 which is "SCP (J1850) communication bus fault".

SCP stands for Serial Communication Protocol,
Simply put, SCP is data flowing across a network.

In this case, the "network" is the PCM (Powertrain Control Module) talking to the HEC (Hybrid Electronic Cluster). Info such as vehicle speed, RPM, voltage, coolant temp, etc. is delivered to the cluster from the PCM using a data bus and speaking the SCP language.

The U1262 code, communication bus fault, suggests to me that a connector is loose somewhere. Likely suspects are the connectors on the cable from the PCM to the cluster.and is nothing to worry about high and low battery voltage suggests a faulty battery cell any garage will check it and the alternator free its a must that the battery is a silver clcium or doble calcium battery and not lead acid
it may also be a smart charge fault such as a split wire

#15 SalahJ

SalahJ

    Newbie

  • New Member
  • Pip
  • 9 posts
  • Ford Model: 2003 Focus Ghia 2 Litre Petrol Auto
  • Location: Bedfordshire

Posted 23 October 2012 - 07:01 PM

I did a dash test today and the battery voltage is showing 10 volt with engine on and off. So need a new battery. The car is doing 123k miles now and last serviced by previous owner at 108K, it's time for another servicing I reckon. So despite hearing many negatives about Evans Halshaw, I'm going to book it with them over the weekend.

Have something to contribute?

Sign in or register to start a topic...


Not what you're looking for?

Register now, we have a huge community of enthusiasts to answer any questions you might have



0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users