ForTim Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I have Focus 2007 1,8 TDCI. When I try to pump gas (it's a diesel) at full speed, gasoline comes back out of the fuel filler neck. I tried at two pump stations. I can refuel slowly. I've just bought a car, and I don't know about it's history. I went to the service and the serviceman checked the fuel and air tubes, but found nothing. Any idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSussex Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 I had a similar problem on my last Ford, I cured it by feeding a length of clean dry garden hose pipe down the fuel filler to check for obstructions, pulled the hose pipe out it looked clean and on the next fill all was OK again, it's worth a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForTim Posted October 25, 2012 Author Share Posted October 25, 2012 That's what my serviceman also did, pulled it all the way down after he detached the fuel filler, but didn't help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 I have Focus 2007 1,8 TDCI. When I try to pump gas (it's a diesel) at full speed, gasoline comes back out of the fuel filler neck. I tried at two pump stations. I can refuel slowly. I've just bought a car, and I don't know about it's history. I went to the service and the serviceman checked the fuel and air tubes, but found nothing. Any idea? A mate of mine recently bought a mk2 and had the same trouble, Took it back to the garage and they denied that it could happen. So he handed the sales man a 5 euro note and said "try put that much in the tank" Sales man got soaked in diesel and they replaced the filler pipe from tank to flap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForTim Posted October 25, 2012 Author Share Posted October 25, 2012 ..Sales man got soaked in diesel and they replaced the filler pipe from tank to flap. If that's the solution, fine. But, what's the problem? Isn't the filler pipe just pipe, how can it be damaged? I understand that if it's clogged it doesn't work, but when you pull some rubber pipe all the way down the filler pipe, what's the obstacle then? Maybe it should've been done with some flexible scrubber... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 If that's the solution, fine. But, what's the problem? Isn't the filler pipe just pipe, how can it be damaged? I understand that if it's clogged it doesn't work, but when you pull some rubber pipe all the way down the filler pipe, what's the obstacle then? Maybe it should've been done with some flexible scrubber... I'll ask him next time I see em but I think he said it was a problem with the capless filler end of the pipe Some spring or somthing inside was failing to open fully when the nozzle from the pump was inserted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney871 Posted October 26, 2012 Share Posted October 26, 2012 Have a look at this, it shows the flap design inside the easyfuel system so you can see how the inner mechanism works. It may well be that most fuel pumps just don't have long enough nozzles to fully disengage the mechanism. http://www.motorcraftservice.com/vdirs/retail/Easy%20Fuel.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForTim Posted February 8, 2013 Author Share Posted February 8, 2013 I haven't solved this yet, although I tried a second time, when my tank was empty, so it was disengaged. My Focus is early 2007, I don't have Easy Fuel system. Replacement fuel filler is 250 euros plus work. There are a number of people with the same problem: http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=299394 http://forums.focaljet.com/mk-i-tech/563585-problems-gas-tank-when-filling-up.html Later link mentions some Ford TSB 07-08-01. There is some solution which I have to try titled "Gas Tank Won't Fill? Let me show you how to fix it!": youtube.com/watch?v=ksHqjydj5bA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForTim Posted April 19, 2013 Author Share Posted April 19, 2013 Hello all. I still have the same problem with this. Both the fuel filler and air tubes look clean, so it must be something with the filler mechanism. Probably like Lenny said: "Some spring or something inside was failing to open fully when the nozzle from the pump was inserted." although I don't understand whether it's fuel or air that's not open in that case. Can someone post that Ford TSB 07-08-01? Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForTim Posted December 2, 2013 Author Share Posted December 2, 2013 This was solved by proper positioning of simple irreversible valve in the fuel filler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeebowhite Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Glad to see you managed to get it solved in the end, and thanks for coming back after such a long time to tell us! So was it an expensive fix in the end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForTim Posted December 2, 2013 Author Share Posted December 2, 2013 It was rather inexpensive at the end, just 2 hours of work - taking off everything - to find out it was a simple problem, a plastic (irreversible/check?) valve at the bottom of the filler neck. I remembered to explain this for somebody else's sake, having in mind my own troubles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeebowhite Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Hopefully this comes in use to others! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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