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Posted 31 December 2012 - 07:26 AM

Look well into the springs and find out if there are specific set for the diesel as the 40mm drop would be quoted from taking off bog standard springs from a petrol zetec, the diesel would have a stronger spring aswell and maybe a lil lower to begin with like the st so when I fitted the eibach I didn't get the drop quoted as it was already 10mm lower than a standard focus.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 09:32 AM

Look well into the springs and find out if there are specific set for the diesel as the 40mm drop would be quoted from taking off bog standard springs from a petrol zetec, the diesel would have a stronger spring aswell and maybe a lil lower to begin with like the st so when I fitted the eibach I didn't get the drop quoted as it was already 10mm lower than a standard focus.

Thanks for advise,
Ive had a look and ill go for a set of these directly from ford, suppose i cant go wrong then
http://www.ebay.co.u...984.m1423.l2649

Ive saw camber bolts available for the rear,
What would they do and would i need them aswell for lowering?
Also could i fit the 40mm springs with the existing rims or am i best wait to fit the 18's first.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 10:53 AM

if your lowering i'd do camber bolts to get your geometry etc... set up again. if your going to drop 40mm check the profile of the tyre doesnt catch the arch, i'd wait till ive swapped the alloys first tho... what tyres are on your atm?

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 11:24 AM

if your lowering i'd do camber bolts to get your geometry etc... set up again. if your going to drop 40mm check the profile of the tyre doesnt catch the arch, i'd wait till ive swapped the alloys first tho... what tyres are on your atm?

Currently on 205/55/R16 with 16" snow flake alloys

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 11:42 AM

the common upgrade is what i have, the 225/40/18 snowflake... but roll on the 19's your looking at 235/30/19 thats your speedo out by 1.3%... i dont think that you could drop it 40mm on standards due to the depth of the tyre wall... the 30's are going to be a really rough ride, every slight little bump in the road you will feel... with lowered suspension, tracked, cambered, lasered up. check that you can fit the 235's on and you dont need spacers.. only reason im saying is i fooked up on the scoob doing this and ended up getting 10mm hub adaptors for my wheels

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 12:17 PM

the common upgrade is what i have, the 225/40/18 snowflake... but roll on the 19's your looking at 235/30/19 thats your speedo out by 1.3%... i dont think that you could drop it 40mm on standards due to the depth of the tyre wall... the 30's are going to be a really rough ride, every slight little bump in the road you will feel... with lowered suspension, tracked, cambered, lasered up. check that you can fit the 235's on and you dont need spacers.. only reason im saying is i fooked up on the scoob doing this and ended up getting 10mm hub adaptors for my wheels

Thanks mate,
Ive decided to go with the 18" snow flake due to the limits on tyre wall with the 19's
So im planning now to fit the ford eibah diesel springs but it doesnt say if they are 30mm or 40mm
Fit some focus eibah rear camber bolts
Then some 18"rims 225/40/18 sounds good and comfortable,
Have you got yours lowered mate?
And would any mechanic do camber alignment with lazer stuff?

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 12:36 PM

mine is factory lowered suspension same as the st (i think) but i could if wanted to drop the front a extra 20mm more, any more than that i recon tyres will scrub. the rear maybe 30mm. tbh as it is now i carnt drive up any ramps nor fit a jack underneath as its quite low. ive had to buy these

http://www.machinema...=1&TC=SRC-ramps

so i can do oil changes etc..... when it comes to taking a wheel off i have to drive up a kerb/on a brick so can get the jack in..

As for a spanner, anybody can tracking etc.... but i had to take my scoob to a suspension specialist to set up the camber and 4 wheel allignment...

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Posted 01 January 2013 - 04:18 PM

Lenny, I personally think 18'' rims are the best compromise between style and comfort. As for the lowering springs, I had my old Renault Megane on springs that were a 40 mm drop and it was not the best of ideas. Going over any speed bumps or potholes, I had to slow down completely so as not to damage the car. Some speed bumps even scrapped the underside of the car. I would suggest playing it safe and going for the 30mm drop. The car will look ace, still retain all the functionality and not look totally daft. When I got my Focus, which is sitting on 17" rims, I was tempted to get it lowered but I reckon I will hold off on it...for now.
Also, remember that your speedometer will be off by a couple of percents once you change the tyres and rim. This is a nifty calculator to keep the wheel diameter as close to the original setup so that the speedo is not way off.

http://www.kouki.co....size-calculator


And here is how my old car looked with a 40mm drop and 16" rims. Thought it still looked quite cool. Reckon you could get away with your car and the current set of alloys.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 07:38 PM

mine is factory lowered suspension same as the st (i think) but i could if wanted to drop the front a extra 20mm more, any more than that i recon tyres will scrub. the rear maybe 30mm. tbh as it is now i carnt drive up any ramps nor fit a jack underneath as its quite low. ive had to buy these

http://www.machinema...=1&TC=SRC-ramps

so i can do oil changes etc..... when it comes to taking a wheel off i have to drive up a kerb/on a brick so can get the jack in..

As for a spanner, anybody can tracking etc.... but i had to take my scoob to a suspension specialist to set up the camber and 4 wheel allignment...

Thanks mate,
Ill have a look around for some place to get the lazer alignment done,
Just purchased the eibach blue springs from ford today for the 1.6 and 2.0TDCi aswell as the steering rack limiter kit and eibach adjustable rear camber bolts.
Just gotta save up the cash now for the 18" alloys and tyres.
Its becoming difficult to find some genuine ford ST facelift snow flake alloys on ebay, their slightly different to the mk2 ST ones and catch the light better due to the extra fold line on each of the five spokes.
Loweing the car on bigger rims sounds like an easy task but ive come to realise its an expensive move, i may purchase alloys and tyres seperate in order to keep the ball rolling on the progress and piece by piece purchase the tyres as funds allow.

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 07:49 PM

Lenny, I personally think 18'' rims are the best compromise between style and comfort. As for the lowering springs, I had my old Renault Megane on springs that were a 40 mm drop and it was not the best of ideas. Going over any speed bumps or potholes, I had to slow down completely so as not to damage the car. Some speed bumps even scrapped the underside of the car. I would suggest playing it safe and going for the 30mm drop. The car will look ace, still retain all the functionality and not look totally daft. When I got my Focus, which is sitting on 17" rims, I was tempted to get it lowered but I reckon I will hold off on it...for now.
Also, remember that your speedometer will be off by a couple of percents once you change the tyres and rim. This is a nifty calculator to keep the wheel diameter as close to the original setup so that the speedo is not way off.

http://www.kouki.co....size-calculator

And here is how my old car looked with a 40mm drop and 16" rims. Thought it still looked quite cool. Reckon you could get away with your car and the current set of alloys.

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Hi mate,
Ive got the mind set on some facelift ST 18's now,
My speedo is currently reading 5kmh higher than actual speed according to the TomTom XL so i should be ok with the slightly bigger wheel,
Thanks for the link to the wheel estimater i will make good use of it, and your old megane looks good lowerd on the 16's doesnt look like it would have scraped neither, so im surprised to hear that it did.
Ive got my front 0.5" lower already due to the TripleRcomposites front splitter, so i think ill wait until i have the 18's before fitting the springs just in case lol
I dont want to split the splitter.
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Posted 04 January 2013 - 01:39 PM

Hi mate,
Ive got the mind set on some facelift ST 18's now,
My speedo is currently reading 5kmh higher than actual speed according to the TomTom XL so i should be ok with the slightly bigger wheel,
Thanks for the link to the wheel estimater i will make good use of it, and your old megane looks good lowerd on the 16's doesnt look like it would have scraped neither, so im surprised to hear that it did.
Ive got my front 0.5" lower already due to the TripleRcomposites front splitter, so i think ill wait until i have the 18's before fitting the springs just in case lol
I dont want to split the splitter.
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Lenny don't go splitting the splitter now ;)

Might be a good idea to wait for the alloys first, see how they sit and then get the lowered springs. I think it will just give you that nice staggered, aggressive stance and the ride will still be great. Now, I am very tempted to get the springs as it's not that hard to fit. What were the other bits you were going to get? My knowledge is very limited when it comes to camber etc.
I was actually thinking of upgrading the front and rear sway bars for the Focus. Eibach make some pretty cool red ones and they are not that expensive with upgraded bushes. Gives a much more stable car round corners and in turn, you can driver faster round them.

I reckon I will wait for you to get the upgrades, see how it all fits on your car and then decided what to do with mine. Your mods are my inspiration for stuff to do to my car. For now, the ICE and remap are my main priorities.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 05:12 PM

Lenny don't go splitting the splitter now http://static.autocl...O_DIR#/wink.png

Might be a good idea to wait for the alloys first, see how they sit and then get the lowered springs. I think it will just give you that nice staggered, aggressive stance and the ride will still be great. Now, I am very tempted to get the springs as it's not that hard to fit. What were the other bits you were going to get? My knowledge is very limited when it comes to camber etc.
I was actually thinking of upgrading the front and rear sway bars for the Focus. Eibach make some pretty cool red ones and they are not that expensive with upgraded bushes. Gives a much more stable car round corners and in turn, you can driver faster round them.
I reckon I will wait for you to get the upgrades, see how it all fits on your car and then decided what to do with mine. Your mods are my inspiration for stuff to do to my car. For now, the ICE and remap are my main priorities.

Have you got a link to the sway bar kits or a price mate
Ive purchased the springs and steering rack limiter kit from ford yesterday, and the rear camber adjustable bolts from performance 3000 on e-bay
The front camber is adjustable as standard but the rear is fixed,
So when lowering the car they recommend fitting these bolts to adjust the camber.
Leaving the tyres flat to the road resulting in maximum grip and even wear on the tyres. Here is a link to the e-bay listing for the bolts, the listing has great images which helped me understand why i would be better to fit them.
http://www.ebay.co.u...984.m1423.l2649

Then the steering rack limiter kit from ford is 12-15pounds and limits the turn of the hubs when fitting 18" rims or higher,
To prevent the tyre from rubbing the inside section of the hub on full lock when parking etc.

Nice to know im your guinne pig for mods lol it will be middle of May at the earliest for the alloys, ive contacted ford uk for a price so i might purchase one per month starting in febuary and purchase tyres from a local fitter.

Fordpartsuk.com can supply me with Part:1543345 Genuine 18" 2008-2011 focus st alloy rims excluding tyre,centre cap, tyre valve, spigott ring.
For 172.50 GBP + 25.00GBP P&P to Ireland
Converts to around 244euro per rim in to my hands, so im happy with that price from ford, when you consider the risks envolved in purchasing a set of four second hand on e-bay paying perhaps 150GBP delivery to ireland , to find when they arrive that none of them match the images of the beautifull set in the sellers listing which bought from.
Too much risk for such money imo
so starting in febuary ill save my pocket money for the rims from forduk, getting excited now lol

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 01:49 PM

Gutted those 19s aren't gonna work out for you, was looking forward to seeing how they looked. 18s with Eibachs though will finish your car off perfectly.

My car had aftermarket 18s fitted when I got it, but I soon swapped them for genuine Mk2 ST rims as they came up at a bargain price. The car's also lowered, but on Apex springs I think (yellow ones) and unsure how much, seems to be about 40mm all round. I had a bit of bother with the front right rubbing on the arch liner on full left lock, and a bit of trouble with rear camber as well, but a few trips to a couple of tyre garages and all sorted pretty easily. I'm still tempted to fit Eibachs instead, probably the best mod I did to my Mondeo ZS.

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 04:36 PM

Gutted those 19s aren't gonna work out for you, was looking forward to seeing how they looked. 18s with Eibachs though will finish your car off perfectly.

My car had aftermarket 18s fitted when I got it, but I soon swapped them for genuine Mk2 ST rims as they came up at a bargain price. The car's also lowered, but on Apex springs I think (yellow ones) and unsure how much, seems to be about 40mm all round. I had a bit of bother with the front right rubbing on the arch liner on full left lock, and a bit of trouble with rear camber as well, but a few trips to a couple of tyre garages and all sorted pretty easily. I'm still tempted to fit Eibachs instead, probably the best mod I did to my Mondeo ZS.

Here's a few pics of mine from quite a while back if interested...

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Thanks Gary that's two of us gutted mate,
Even more annoyed today to find out both front tyres have turned in to track day slick's lol not skid or anything but they need replacment shnell!!
So ive gotta fit two 205/55/R16 tyres on thursday,
Then start purchasing the 18" rims across the next 4-5 months, seems mad buying tyres for old stock but its not worth the gamble of losing grip in a bid to save money, but they will help the sale of the 16's i suppose.
Thanks for sharing the information regarding the camber and the rubbing of the wheels, that reasures me that it is worth purchasing the replacment bolts.

Your focus is look saw-wheat on the 18's with the springs,
Some red calipers would look good imo but perhaps too predictable, maybe in silver on your motor agenst the blue.

And regarding to transfer from Apex to Eibach
Id research both on the web before changing, maybe their is better handling with Apex compared to the Eibach, fordpartsuk are a good price for the eibach springs though if you are changing, and the Apex ones you remove are sure to be worth atleast 50pounds in resale value.

Your ride height looks good in the last image too,
Im worried about crashing in to kerbs when parking lol

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Posted 06 January 2013 - 05:25 PM

Had to put two new fronts on myself on Friday, probably a week or two overdue if I'm honest but with Christmas chaos and limited opening hours etc that was the first chance I got. Also diagnosed with a knackered lower ball joint on the passenger side, so need to try get that sorted tomorrow. Worn tyres def aren't worth the risk, both in terms of safety and the risk of getting pulled over the festive period and picking up points for them. Good tyres def help sell the alloys though.

On the rack limiter and camber bolts, I'd probably go for these if I'd done the lowering myself, and will do if I change to Eibachs. The previous aftermarket 18s on it were narrower than the genuine ones, which is why I only had the rubbing problems when I moved to them. As far as researching Apex/Eibach, my (very!) limited knowledge so far is that Apex are just a cheaper alternative, and given the Eibachs are a Ford approved apart I'd just be happier with them. And as you say, could make a few quid back selling what I have.

When I put them on my Mondeo, I found, with everywhere online needing extortionate shipping charges added in, that going direct through my local Ford dealer was the cheapest option. I get a bit of discount anyway so think I paid about £110 for them. See below an excuse to gratuitously post a pic of my old baby and how she stood on Eibachs!

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Cheers for the compliments on the car. I'm happy with the stance/appearance at the min, even if it can be a bit firm over rough ground. Small price to pay really in my eyes. Not overly keen on red calipers (as I await a barrage of abuse from the many of people who have them!) but they're just not for me. I've actually already done them in a dark blue. I got a tin of dark blue hammerite and did them on the Mondeo to match the colour of the blue in the Ford centre caps, so thought I'd do the same on this. I've swapped the silver caps in the pics for blue ones since. You may be able to make out the blue calipers in the pic in my previous post of the front right wheel.

Ride height seems spot on at the min, but I already can't get a trolley jack under there, so bit worried about what it'll be like with the ST kit on!

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