Mustaine8661 Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Good evening ladies and gents! Hope you're all well and had a good Christmas? I've had a 58 Petrol 1.4 Titanium for 6 months, which I bought as I thought I'd only be doing shorter drives over the weekend. Life being what it is, means I'm now driving 250 miles a week to work on the motorway and looking to switch to a diesel. My dealer has offered to do a swap for a the Titanium & £700 for a 10 plate Fiesta 1.6 tdci Zetec (with 16” upgraded alloy wheels, power folding mirrors, rear parking sensors, b-tooth + USB & privacy glass) My question is, are diesels really that more economical than petrols? I get 40 mpg (so the trip says!) at present, and with diesel costing around 8p a more a litre, is it worth it? Also, whats the Zetec like? Many thanks for your opinions =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambooka Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 Well I have a 1.6tdci zetec s and a lead foot and mines doing 49-52 mpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustaine8661 Posted January 11, 2013 Author Share Posted January 11, 2013 Well I have a 1.6tdci zetec s and a lead foot and mines doing 49-52 mpg Does it still shift? The petrol feels very sporty up to 60ish, but I've been told diesels are sluggish unless you thrash them!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambooka Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 No I used to have a 1.8 focus petrol and it feels not much slower than that can hardly tell the difference. The short gear changes slow it down a bit but that's about it what it lacks in bhp it makes up for with torque Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDCiST Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 the 1.6tdci is very economical if you drive carefully... Even in my focus it does 45-50mpg and thats thrashing it! If i'm gentle i can see 60mpg. Diesel is a lot more expensive however, but if your doing the motorway miles then you should see savings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNath Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I could get 65mpg when I had mine. Lifetime average was 58mpg over 47,000 miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1g_dav3 Posted January 11, 2013 Share Posted January 11, 2013 I'm anywhere from 47 - 68 on average, town and motorway driving. I've had a few times higher but that's generally. Done 3 track days with it (because I'm that cool I take a diesel Fiesta on track days) and it got a 36mpg average, so if you're gonna drive it hard you'll stil save :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDCiST Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 There is NOTHING wrong with taking a TDCi on track....... ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJC Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 My question is, are diesels really that more economical than petrols? I get 40 mpg (so the trip says!) at present, and with diesel costing around 8p a more a litre, is it worth it? My 1.6 Econetic currently says 63.4 MPG but I'm a member of the 55mph club.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJC Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I could get 65mpg when I had mine. Lifetime average was 58mpg over 47,000 miles. Someone taken offence to you selling the Ford as you have Ford Traitor by you your status :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustaine8661 Posted January 12, 2013 Author Share Posted January 12, 2013 Thank you all for the info! Even with the extra cost up front and that 5p a litre, I can still save £1,500 over 2 years (provided I drive like a saint!) Do you really notice the extra torque when pulling away? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike77 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Yes, you'll really notice the extra torque on take off, only when the turbo kicks in though at around 1600rpm, I'd have the diesel over its petrol counterpart any day, but then I just love the oily stuff lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJC Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Do you really notice the extra torque when pulling away? Moved from a 1.6 Petrol Fiat to the 1.6 Diesel Fiesta. I can't say I really noticed much of a difference overall, but then neither was a sports model and I can't say I really notice when the turbo actually comes in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustaine8661 Posted January 13, 2013 Author Share Posted January 13, 2013 Coolio! Going to pick it up on Saturday provided it drives ok. The colour is marked as "Squeeze" which I think is the snot green colour. Hope looks better in person! Will let you all know how I get on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulHere Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 We went from a 1.4 TDCi Titanium to a 1.6 TDCi and we really did notice the extra torque away from roundabouts, we stormed around France at 130kmh in both cars, never took much notice of fuel consumption though but was generally happy with the distance it could carry us :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustaine8661 Posted January 15, 2013 Author Share Posted January 15, 2013 Hmmm... Just spoke to the dealer, and after telling me that the warranty and GAP insurance would carry over, they have now decided the the GAP is non transferable. They said that the old policy will be cancelled and partially refunded, and a new policy will be needed. Something doesn't sound right with this, especially sudden change in tune. The T&C's for the original policy say no refunds so I'm inclined to call BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sliveredge Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 I had this issue with Gap a few years ago. was told it was transferable when the car was brought when it come to transfer the car to me after returning from uni was told it can be and money was wasted. they gave us a refund of part of the amount tho as good will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dah Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Hi £20 a year TAX plus if you get out a bend and give it some boot a1.6 tdci will leave a 1.4 petrol in it's dust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustaine8661 Posted January 28, 2013 Author Share Posted January 28, 2013 Update for you all! So far, the experience has been mixed. The car is much smoother going from 40-70. In anything it accelerates a little too easily :) Everything feels much calmer than the petrol, and its a lovely quite drive at 70 on the motorway. My biggest gripe is with the dealer rather than the car! Now they say that the best lessons in life are leant through your own mistakes, but I would advise anyone else buying a car for the first (or second!) time to head these words. Regardless of whether you're buying from a named franchise dealer or not - if it's not in writing, it didn't happen! The dealer (Hills Ford, Kidderminster) told me that the customer that part ex'ed it forgot to bring the service book in, and that he would post it to me by the end of the week. Now he also said it had been serviced about 3 weeks ago and has been serviced to schedule. However when I got home and checked fluid levels, the oil is half full and jet black, and the other fluid levels are below half full. Does that fit a recent service?! Also, the car has done 65k miles in 30 months. This was kept very well hidden( to the point that rather than let me drive the car to the petrol station for a full tank, he took it himself. I know it's my fault at the end of the day as I did'nt ask. Now I trusted the dealer as I bought my first car from the same place and they were brilliant, but I feel a bit like I've been shat on... Rant over! Thanks for listening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanGersFord Posted January 28, 2013 Share Posted January 28, 2013 Diesels tend to be better MPG on the motor way than driving about town. They come into their own in that department when theyre doing 60mph+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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