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#436 JoeZS19

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 08:55 AM

1.0's the new 2.0 ;)



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Posted 03 May 2013 - 08:58 AM

As much as I think the ecoboost is a great engine, surely it is only sat happy in a Fiesta or Focus at a push.

 

Can a 1L, no matter how much turbo boost it has got, really be up to the job of pulling a Mondeo?

 

I would of thought the spritely 1L would just get bogged down by the size of a saloon.



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Posted 03 May 2013 - 09:05 AM

[quote name="JoeZS19" post="257415" timestamp="1367570753"]1.0's the new 2.0 ;)[/quoteI

It could just be yes Joe , as wen the 1.6 ecoBoost came out in the focus it was assigned to the titanium an rated at 150ps and then ford increased that to 180ps but was only avaliable in the zetec s and titanium X as the others you can only configure the 150ps one but to cap it all ford developed the 1.0 an most got for this as the power is the same as an old 1.6 or 1.8 .
Clever marketing i think and they could have followed in motorcycle technology as bikes put out 200ps an most of them are only a 1000cc :)

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 09:22 AM

Displacement is nothing to go off, BHP is BHP, and torque is torque. Sure it limit's how much, but if a 1.6 produces 120bhp, and a 1.0 produces 120bhp, it'll still be doing 120bhp. Sure it'll do it differently, in this case it does better, but it still does the figures.



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Posted 03 May 2013 - 09:25 AM

Displacement is nothing to go off, BHP is BHP, and torque is torque. Sure it limit's how much, but if a 1.6 produces 120bhp, and a 1.0 produces 120bhp, it'll still be doing 120bhp. Sure it'll do it differently, in this case it does better, but it still does the figures.

 

It would be pull away which would concern me. The turbo relies on exhaust pressure, so you don't get the same power delivery from stand still which you do if it is NA. (Or at least more torque from the engine naturally).

 

The thing is, you probably have to change you driving habits and rev the car harder, in which case are you still getting the MPG benefit?



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Posted 03 May 2013 - 09:31 AM

Displacement is nothing to go off, BHP is BHP, and torque is torque. Sure it limit's how much, but if a 1.6 produces 120bhp, and a 1.0 produces 120bhp, it'll still be doing 120bhp. Sure it'll do it differently, in this case it does better, but it still does the figures.


I agree as think driving styles have changed with high fuel costs etc as there are more smaller cars on the road nowadays plus i think most people drive a lot slower as notice this even if i am doing over 70/80 as too how many i overtake on dual carriageways .

Bikes have always had small displacement engines and they rev high as a 600cc Honda i once owned put out 115bhp and rev to nearly 16,000 , also see it read 166mph on a race track that is ; )

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Posted 03 May 2013 - 09:40 AM

b1g_dav3 whats the pull away for standing like on the new ZS?



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Posted 03 May 2013 - 09:42 AM

b1g_dav3 whats the pull away for standing like on the new ZS?

 

I imagine it is great on a Fiesta from everything I have read - a Mondeo though?



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Posted 03 May 2013 - 09:46 AM

yeah i guess, mondeo with a wife,kids in the back and a boot full of stuff might be a different story aha



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Posted 03 May 2013 - 10:04 AM

I imagine it is great on a Fiesta from everything I have read - a Mondeo though?

The Pull of from stand still is pretty impressive.



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Posted 03 May 2013 - 01:40 PM

It's fantastic on the diesel that's all I know :-P 



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Posted 03 May 2013 - 02:23 PM

Hi, the ecoboosts do not have to revved hard, firstly the torque comes in at about 1.5k, much lower rpm than the engines it is replacing and more of it as well. Plus the turbos are low inertia and have variable geometry, meaning they spool up quicker, and ultra high speed, thus they can produce more boost than conventional ones at lower speeds without any lag. If it is the same as mine then it'll be a Borg Warner KP39 as used in many VAG vehicles and also has water cooled bearings.The ecoboosts can be driven quite lazily, much like a diesel, and that could be a change in driving habit that some might need to get used to.



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Posted 07 May 2013 - 09:03 PM

Still can't believe nobody has ordered the ZS in Moondust Silver

Can't even find one on somewhere like Autotrader

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 09:07 PM

Just doesn't look great really, seen quite a few.



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Posted 07 May 2013 - 09:14 PM

I guess the Reds etc look more sporty but I have always like the ZS in Silver but want to see the facelift version

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