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#1 NQbbe

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 04:02 PM

Hi all

I've just ordered a new Fiesta 1.0 125hp Sport (Not sure the sport is available in all countries, it's basically a titanium with lowered springs, larger spoiler, larger rims, and so forth)

However I was wondering, what exactly is the difference between the 100hp and 125hp version of the engine ?

According to the papers I could find the 100hp version produces 170nm of torque, whereas the 125 version produces 200nm. I've however been unable to find out whether it's merely caused by the 125hp version having overboost and the 100hp not having it, or if they actually tweaked the engine somehow (thinking larger turbo pressure or similar)

So what I'm wondering is really: What causes the 125hp version to have those extra 25hp ?

If anyone has a dyno graph of the 100hp version that'd be a huge help as well (As I can easily find dyno graphs for the 125hp on google)

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide :-)

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 04:11 PM

The 100Hp ecoboost is probably just a restricted version of the 125Hp ecoboost, phisically identical, but with a different engine map,

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Posted 05 February 2013 - 05:33 PM

Sounds like a plausable explanation yeah :-) Hadn't thought about that.

Still if anyone has a dyno graph I'd be happy to see it :-)

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 05:17 PM

I'm looking for a used race-red 5dr Ecoboost 125 Titanium model - but find them somewhat rare and there's no immediate way of telling which engine is fitted.

Therefore my query is:- Are there any physical signs indicating a 125ps engine - ie badging or engine configuration?

 

Incidentally, 125 ps = 123.3 hp. and 100ps = 98.6 hp.

 

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 06:04 PM

I'm looking for a used race-red 5dr Ecoboost 125 Titanium model - but find them somewhat rare and there's no immediate way of telling which engine is fitted.

Therefore my query is:- Are there any physical signs indicating a 125ps engine - ie badging or engine configuration?

 

Incidentally, 125 ps = 123.3 hp. and 100ps = 98.6 hp.

 

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It should show you which version (100PS or 125PS) on the ETIS, you could look this up if you had the reg. no.  

 

It may also be on the registration document

 

Manufacturers often quote PS figures to make the figures look better, that were supposed to be obsolete, and members/ posters often get PS mixed up with Hp  , there is not a big difference between PS and Hp anyway (0.4% on your figures)



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Posted 13 November 2013 - 11:13 PM

Collins performance remap for the 100 and 125 ps is the same it works on both versions and they both end up 137ps

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 09:17 AM

I am talking about looking at the car in a dealer's show room/line-up/advertisement to identify the engine. Nothing too involved!

Think I might be on to one in Yorkshire, which is available in early 2014. Will see what Santa says...

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 11:11 AM

Oh you can check under the bonnet the 100 ps has 100 stamped on the turbo and the other has 120. From the outside the only way would be to use the reg on say money supermarket insurance quotes don't get a quote just start the process and when you enter the reg it'll tell you what hp/ps the car is...

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 03:09 PM

Ah - turbo marking - that'll do it, thanks!

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 08:26 PM

Confirmed by a tuning company, the only difference is by software. Theyre physically the same :)



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Posted 14 November 2013 - 08:59 PM

There should be a sticker on the drivers door that'll say what the engine power output is.

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 12:44 AM

Confirmed by a tuning company, the only difference is by software. Theyre physically the same :)

Thank you for confirming my post (no2) - it is appreciated 

 

It makes sense as the 100PS and 125PS engines are made on the same production line, and phisically identical, and the 100, is a restricted version of the 125, made for "political" or marketing reasons, the "electronic" restriction, and them being phisically identical, saves production costs (only one engine has to be made for 2 or more power outputs)  



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Posted 13 December 2013 - 08:40 PM

Confirmed by a tuning company, the only difference is by software. Theyre physically the same :)

 

Hi

 

The tuning company is wrong.  The turbine wheel in the 100PS version is made from an alloy called IN713C and the 125PS version is MARM246.  These are both commonly used nickel superalloys. There are some chemistry differences but the strength of the alloys is different and their temperature capabilities are different.

 

I am unsure of other differences but I know this bit for definite!

 

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Posted 13 December 2013 - 09:51 PM

I think you'll find they're actually the same but the 125ps has a longer burst of turbo, 30seconds to be exact. I can't recall the 100Ps turbo time but I found it somewhere some time ago, I'll have a look and repost.

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Posted 15 December 2013 - 01:15 PM

I recently bought one of the 125 Titanium X sport ones you are talking about... Quality car! Very hard to come by..

I test drove the EcoBoost 100 and it was really poor compared to the 125.

When I was looking online I used the
My Car Check app and just fired in the regy which would confirm what engine it was.

Took me about 6 weeks before I found the one with the right spec!

PS I had arguments with a certain well known dealership who were clearly desperate for a sale and we're adamant that one that I was looking at was the 125 when it wasn't! Be careful!

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