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Engine systems failure 1.6 TDCi DPF fault limp mode loss of power

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#1 minnis

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 04:28 PM

Hi all,

My 2006 Ford Focus 1.6 TDCi came up with an engine systems failure message today just coming off of a dual carriageway (70mph) accompanied by a red light next to the trip computer. I think it went into limp mode (severly reduced power, unwiling to rev much), so not good when you live at the top of a hill! Two other times when starting the car it has briefly displayed an error message (once it said "steering assist failure", and yesterday it came up with the same engine systems failure message"). Both times I have restarted the car and it disappeared. 

 

The car is a 2006 on an 06 plate, and has currently done 73500 miles. I bought it last may at 65000 miles, and it had a service just before I bought it. As it had just turned 6 years old/65000 miles, I'm presuming the DPF would have been changed then?

 

Does anyone have any idea what's wrong?

 

Thanks in advance,

Minnis



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Posted 23 March 2013 - 05:19 PM

You sure it's got a DPF? I know of an 06 1.6 TDCi without one!

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 06:05 PM

Well, I didn't know of any 1.6s without one! I thought they were on all 1.6s and all euro4 2.0s. I was under the impression only the 1.8s were DPF-free.
Its a 1.6tdci [110] euro 4, so I'm fairly sure it does have one.

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Posted 23 March 2013 - 06:22 PM

Ah yes, the Euro 4 ones do have them. I was surprised myself, the one I'm thinking of (Girlfriend's Dad's) is a 2006 (06) 1.6 TDCi 110 but has no DPF so I'm guessing is the Euro 3. The tax is £100 a year on his.

 

Mine, which is a 2008 (58) 1.6 TDCi, does of course have a DPF, and is £30/year tax. The Ford Etis website classifies mine as "Stage IV + DPF Emissions". Can't check his as it doesn't appear on Etis unless you use the VIN.

 

Edit: Just found out (*): "Also, cars produced on or after 1st January 2007 must be Euro IV compliant[...]", so that explains it. I guess any 1.6 TDCi Focus after 01/01/07 will definitely have a DPF, before then, only the "Euro 4" ones will.

 

 

 

(*)http://www.whatcar.c...iv--mean/225420



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Posted 23 March 2013 - 07:05 PM

Just checked Etis, and mine definitely does have a DPF. Interestingly, mine is also £100 a year to tax.

 

 

Have done a bit of googling and some similar problems have been due to faulty throttle body (?) or glow plugs. Any advice appreciated!

 

Thanks,

Minnis



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Posted 23 March 2013 - 10:58 PM

You must go to a dealership and get your vehicle scanned for error codes. Anything else without certain failure code is a shot in the dark.



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Posted 04 April 2013 - 04:46 PM

Update time, and not good news. I was told just before easter that the DPF was blocked. I was given a choice of sending it to ford to get it cleaned, or they'd replace it. Cleaning would be cheaper, but there's no guarantee. Given that the dpf was scheduled to be replaced just before I bought it, I'm guessing it wasn't, so I thought I'd take the plunge and get it replaced. I also trust this Indy garage, as my family have been using them for years. They are honest and would not rip me off, as ford might. However, he called up later that evening, saying that the sensor pipe(?) had fused to the dpf, and that they couldn't get it off. He said he'd get hold of a new pipe, but a week later and they still can't find the part.

On a brighter note, however, my mum has put me on her insurance for two weeks. It may be a V******* C****, but its better than the bus I suppose!

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 09:03 PM

The dpf strikes again most diesels are being traded in for that reason so much so a friends garage wont take diesels as part ex now too many dpfs failing leaving them to foot the bill you may need to go to ford for the pipe or the whole unit

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 11:29 PM

Yeah, I'm kinda wishing I'd investigated the 1.8 a bit more to get out of the dpf when I got it, but the lower tax and insurance, and higher mpg were the deciding factors really. Will have to seriously consider the 1.6 eco boost when I upgrade.

Also, the garage has tried ford themselves, but still no joy :(

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 03:08 PM

whats a dpf? I have a 1.6 tdci on an 07 plate having done 81k.....should this be something i need to look at getting replaced? 



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Posted 05 April 2013 - 03:26 PM

diesel particulate filter.



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Posted 06 April 2013 - 08:39 AM

The dpf I'm told by my local ford dealer sits between the engine block and the outlet manifold and collects all the bad bits of diesel gases the engine chucks out . It normally cleans itself but only if you get the engine up to normal temperature for approx 20-30 mins on a motorway and you need to do that once a week I'm told . So if you just doodle about town all the time the filter will eventually get blocked and the engine goes into limp mode .
Like I said my local ford dealer told me this so if I'm wrong I apologise.

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 08:59 AM

Youre correct its the reason why ford tell you in the brochure unless you do lots of miles dont buy a diesel

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Posted 06 April 2013 - 09:45 AM

on the subject of DPF

 

I have it on my 1.6tdci (60plate) I dont think I have heard the regen process kick in once yet.

 

Is that a good sign, I have owned the car for about 16 months.

 

I do the odd stretch down the m25 every 2 weeks or so and most of my driving is on A roads but I have never noticed or heard the process.



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Posted 06 April 2013 - 10:17 AM

on the subject of DPF

 

I have it on my 1.6tdci (60plate) I dont think I have heard the regen process kick in once yet.

 

Is that a good sign, I have owned the car for about 16 months.

 

I do the odd stretch down the m25 every 2 weeks or so and most of my driving is on A roads but I have never noticed or heard the process.

 

Never noticed or heard the process on mine either tbh. Done around 20K in mine and had no issues so far. Fluid needs topping up this year (37K service).



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