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#16 Stephen_D

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Posted 05 April 2013 - 07:06 PM

Well found some redex in the cupboard so stuck 150ml into a nearly full tank and gave it a drive for about 5 miles.

 

Smoke wasnt too bad on startup today but i still say this thing is lacking power... its a 1.4 and if you dont time it right its VERY easy to stall, slow down for a corner to 8 - 10 mph and u got no chance of pulling off in 2nd gear... put your foot down and it takes forever to climb to 4k revs.

 

But this is how its always been since we got it, like i say its the mrs car so i hardly drive it but from what i can tell from todays long drive is that its a Pile of S#@+!! lol

 

Apart from and oil change and filter, air filter... spark plugs have already been done 5k ago what else could be the trouble with it?

It baffels me... i used to have a punto 5 year ago 1.2 and that was faster than this thing! Much to my delight i dont have to drive this fiesta every day.

 

Its a 52plate but the 03 model (registered in feb 03)



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Posted 05 April 2013 - 07:21 PM

Its hard to tell if its something wrong or its the way the car is - remember its just a 1.4



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Posted 05 April 2013 - 08:01 PM

doesnt sound right to me, add a fuel filter too, if possible get a bottle of 'cataclean' or similar, use it to half fill [or more if you can) new fuel filter, then give it a good old italian tune up...
see if that improves anything.

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 11:02 AM

where can i get a bottle of cataclean from off the shelf, google isn't giving many results.

 

Thanks for the input aswell i really appreciate it. I know its only a 1.4 but like i say the punto wouldnt stall and die of power when trying to pull off at low speeds from 2nd gear... imagine a low speed approach to a round about, the car goes past you drop to 2nd gear hit the revs and theres nothing there. Normally you wouldnt drop to 1st, its not how a car should be in my eyes.

 

If theres someone close to Newcastle under lyme that could spare 5 or 10 mins i'd appreciate it, just to have a look and see what your thoughts are



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Posted 08 April 2013 - 09:43 PM

in the good old days of points/plugs/timing and carburettors :)
with those symptoms of what sounds like what we used to call 'a flat spot' we would start by checking for good spark/timing/air leak or weak mixture

modern engines, different ball game.
reasons for flat spots dont change, but now timing/mixture are controlled by ecu.
if im right about 'flat spot' then ideally you need to see if any codes are logging, not all will flag the light, so may still be flagging something.

if nothing there then ideally you need to see live data as its running.

if you cant access any of that, then have close look at plugs [esp gaps] leads and coil pack, you might be getting a weakened spark, doesnt necessarily mean you would notice a misfire.

would change fuel filter as matter of course, use a cleaner as instructed before, doesnt have to be cataclean, can be anything similar, just look for one specificly designed for injection and catalyst friendly

check all breather hoses for splits or collapse, clean out the pcv valve...are you certain its running on correct engine oil, too thick or even just burnt old oil, and it causes problems

then starts to get a bit more involved, ideally want an a 4 gas exhaust emission check, if mixture is incorrect then you could be looking at temp sensor [fairly inexpensive, maybe worth a gamble of renewing anyway] or possible problems with oxy sensors or cat itself

not a bundle of help if you havent got the means to test any of the above i know, but would definitely give that engine the full works to start you off

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Posted 08 April 2013 - 10:19 PM

Just to add to what w is saying, you may have fitted new plugs with too wide a gap, the plugs come pre - gapped, but Ford specified a wider gap at one piont and the engine may run better (especially with old HT leads or coil paks) with the plugs "gapped down" a bit  

 

If you remove your spark plugs (keeping them in order) and take a picture of the tips (the bits that go into the combustion chamber) and post on the forum it will give an indication of how the engine is running (rich/ lean etc)  



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Posted 09 April 2013 - 10:55 AM

Cheers chaps, full works is on the cards now to try and resolve this issue. I'll post a pic of the spark plugs when i get my hands on the car.. Me and the mrs dont see each other much when im working nights. Think i might be able do get to it on thursday

 

Is their any diagnostics i can buy for Ford cars? For my audi i have VCDS (formally VAG-Com) runs from the laptop with the cable

 

Surely ford do one..



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Posted 09 April 2013 - 02:23 PM

You can get a code reader called an F-super that works on most Fords, you can get it online for about £25, you need a laptop to work it, i use a Superchips bluefin handset which does not need a laptop and reads almost all the Ford codes, even pre OBD11 (petrol upto 2000 & diesel upto 2004)  



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Posted 09 April 2013 - 03:52 PM

Cheers i'll give F Super a try for £20 - £25 worth seeing whats wrong and cheaper than taking it to a garage...

 

And i'll have diagnostics for both cars :) winner




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