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#1 JAR897

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 07:32 PM

Ok so I now have everything in place to make my order (except the money off my dad!).

The car I'm after is the Fiesta 09 Titanium, with the Technology Pack, Full BodyKit and Titanium X Pack. The colour will be either Sea Gray or White!

The reason I'm unsure of the colour is for this reason; If I get it in Sea Gray I will leave the wheels alone. However If I get it in White I will concider paying 30 per wheel (from an independant garage) to have them sprayed gloss black. The wheel's I'm talking about are the 17" 5-Spokes, which come with the Titanium X Pack.

I was all sure that that's what I wanted, but my dad said it looked rediculous, and I am in mixed minds. The theory is that when the WHITE car comes I can make a decision wether or not to get the wheels sprayed... However I don't want to make the wrong decision and order the wrong colour.

I'm going to make a poll as soon as I figure out how to (GOD... Im suposed to be a computer Scientist, lol).

And I will also post some pictures of a white (with and without black rims) and Sea gray for your reference.

Check back soon for more details.

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#2 shabazmo

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 07:46 PM

Your dad sounds sensible. White looks terrific, but unless you like polishing every month and T cutting every year, stay well clear.
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Posted 20 March 2009 - 08:20 PM

I would go for Sea grey as that would be easier to sell when the time comes. Also i like the grey more :)

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 09:37 PM

Your dad sounds sensible. White looks terrific, but unless you like polishing every month and T cutting every year, stay well clear.
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What is T-cutting?

p.s. As a uni student I simply don't have the time (cough lazy cough) to polish it. lol. The Sea Gray might be a better option, although my mates white car doesn't seem to be too bad at getting dirty, and my Dad's dark Gray Beemer gets very easily dirty.

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 10:24 PM

What is T-cutting?

p.s. As a uni student I simply don't have the time (cough lazy cough) to polish it. lol. The Sea Gray might be a better option, although my mates white car doesn't seem to be too bad at getting dirty, and my Dad's dark Gray Beemer gets very easily dirty.



You wont need to t cut a new car for years, just have a good coat of wax put over it by a decent valeter every winter and you will be fine, I will take some more pics for you tomorrow as my car has not been cleaned for over a week and although we have had no rain its a bit dusty in places, however this does not show that bad, My OH offered to clean it today but I said to wait as I wanted to take some dirtish pics for you first. Ive already mentioned that out black merc showed the dust and dirt 100% more than this one does.

As for sell on, I intend to trade in again for a newer model in a couple of years time anyway so I wont worry about that just yet, however frozen white is pure white not the old crappy creamy white, cannot see anyone not wanting to buy it judging by the amount of compliments I get daily on my car.

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 11:40 PM

You wont need to t cut a new car for years, just have a good coat of wax put over it by a decent valeter every winter and you will be fine, I will take some more pics for you tomorrow as my car has not been cleaned for over a week and although we have had no rain its a bit dusty in places, however this does not show that bad, My OH offered to clean it today but I said to wait as I wanted to take some dirtish pics for you first. Ive already mentioned that out black merc showed the dust and dirt 100% more than this one does.

As for sell on, I intend to trade in again for a newer model in a couple of years time anyway so I wont worry about that just yet, however frozen white is pure white not the old crappy creamy white, cannot see anyone not wanting to buy it judging by the amount of compliments I get daily on my car.


Yea I persumed it wouldn't need to be T cut for a while.. although to be honest I wasn't sure what T cutting was until I asked the old man. Anyway yes, I am still in two minds as to which colour... but iv'e ejected the idea of blacking the wheels - looks much too chavy for me.

The white on the other hand is a classy yet still sporty look, while the Sea Gray is more executive. I' swaying towards the white at the moment. Can't wait to see your dirty pictures Michelle. lol. Thanks very much.

Looking forward to the pictures on a serious note, and I will visit my local delaer to see what cars he has got in stock tomorrow so I can get a feel for the two cars.

On a side note, I've ordered the chrome scuffplates and the metal pedals, so I will more than likely have those before the actual car... but I can dream.

Thanks again, and good night.

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Posted 20 March 2009 - 11:57 PM

Put a decent polish on, something like Autoglym or Meguairs and then seal it with a coat or two of Collinite 476, and this will last 6 months easy. Do this twice a year and you won't have to worry about T-Cut (who uses that these days anyway?) as the paint ill not fade. the only reason paint fades is that people leave there cars without protection for years. Don't forget to do the wheels as well, Collinite 476 is great for this as well and will make cleaning them a damn sight easier.

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 12:11 AM

So basically what everyone is saying is the following;


"Take care over your white car and it will keep looking superb"?

I tend to agree. Wouldn't an expencive car wash do the hard part (i.e. waxing etc) for me though?

As I said, I'm a lazy student. I'm sure modern cars such as the Fiesta will have much better protection than some older cars which may be more prone to paint fade.

I'm going for the white... I think... Ask me again tomorrow. lol.

If anyone has more pictures of the Sea Gray / white with exterior body kit, it would be appriciated.

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 07:47 AM

So basically what everyone is saying is the following;


"Take care over your white car and it will keep looking superb"?

I tend to agree. Wouldn't an expencive car wash do the hard part (i.e. waxing etc) for me though?

As I said, I'm a lazy student. I'm sure modern cars such as the Fiesta will have much better protection than some older cars which may be more prone to paint fade.

I'm going for the white... I think... Ask me again tomorrow. lol.

If anyone has more pictures of the Sea Gray / white with exterior body kit, it would be appriciated.


If your paying a lot of money for your car do NOT let those hand car wash places touch it - they spray road traffic remover over it and leave it in the sun to bake on this over time will ruin the black bits on your car, they then use Truck wash diluted to clean the car again this is very abrassive and will kill your paintwork, your car will be your baby treat it like one, once a week whats 30 mins to give it a nice wash yourself or pay out once a fortnight for a valeter (around 15 for wash and hoover inside, dashboard wiped over etc) and then maybe once every 6 months have a full works - coat of wax, shampoo of mats, carpets seats etc. or if having leather, have leather treatment - looking at around 50-60 for this. Going to take some pics for you now although sun is shining again (shouldnt moan) but wanted to take some dull photos, so will try to get the dust captured as best as I can.

Happy shopping mate x

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 09:02 AM

OK, Its looks like I will not be able to convince anyone. I was just trying to provide you with some of my experiences. Having owned 2 white cars in the family over the years, I found that road grime and tar spots stick to a white car in a way that makes the car look a lot less attractive. With other colours, it is not so noticeable. The beauty of white is that is looks great when polished and shinny, road grime and tar can make the car look a lot less appealing. Please stand close to and have a close look at white cars over 1 year old.

I found that the only way to bring the car back to its original beauty was to use a cutting compound followed by polishing the car every month. Despite using the above methods, I still had to use cutting compound once a year.
I used the phrase TCUT as a generic use of a cutting compound. There are many others on the market.

In any event Best of Luck with your new car.

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 11:34 AM

OK, Its looks like I will not be able to convince anyone. I was just trying to provide you with some of my experiences. Having owned 2 white cars in the family over the years, I found that road grime and tar spots stick to a white car in a way that makes the car look a lot less attractive. With other colours, it is not so noticeable. The beauty of white is that is looks great when polished and shinny, road grime and tar can make the car look a lot less appealing. Please stand close to and have a close look at white cars over 1 year old.

I found that the only way to bring the car back to its original beauty was to use a cutting compound followed by polishing the car every month. Despite using the above methods, I still had to use cutting compound once a year.
I used the phrase TCUT as a generic use of a cutting compound. There are many others on the market.

In any event Best of Luck with your new car.



No No shabazmo, thanks for your opinion, it is all adding up to help me make my final decision. As I said, I'm going to the garage today to take a look at some different colours... This being my first real car im sure I will look after and cherish it.. It is my baby afterall. lol. I need to think of some names for both a gray or white car now... lol.

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 12:04 PM

I call mine Black Panther.. :rolleyes: :lol: Ford should call the paint colour that rather than panther black :)

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 03:02 PM

OK, Its looks like I will not be able to convince anyone. I was just trying to provide you with some of my experiences. Having owned 2 white cars in the family over the years, I found that road grime and tar spots stick to a white car in a way that makes the car look a lot less attractive. With other colours, it is not so noticeable. The beauty of white is that is looks great when polished and shinny, road grime and tar can make the car look a lot less appealing. Please stand close to and have a close look at white cars over 1 year old.

I found that the only way to bring the car back to its original beauty was to use a cutting compound followed by polishing the car every month. Despite using the above methods, I still had to use cutting compound once a year.
I used the phrase TCUT as a generic use of a cutting compound. There are many others on the market.

In any event Best of Luck with your new car.


Nobody is saying that you are wrong, what I'm saying is, if you use a good quality polish and wax/sealant, 2 or 3 times a year with regular washes in between, then you will not have any problems with paintwork. the reason there are many cars going round with crappy paintwork is because the majority of people buy cars and don't polish or wax them on a regular basis. I'll go as far as to say, the majority don't even polish them at all, just wash them. That's when you get tar spots that are hard to remove, oxidised paintwork etc. The same applies to the wheels as well.

I'm currently in the middle of removing all the wheels on the Fiesta to put a coat of polish on and three coats of Poorboys Wheel Sealant. Then, when it comes to clean them I won't need to use any abrasive cleaners to get them clean, the muck and brakedust will come off with just wash, mitt and brush.

Wash regularly and polish/wax periodically with good quality products and no matter what colour the car, it'll always look great and will be easier to clean when you do come to clean it.

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 03:25 PM

OK So I would like to clear this up once and for all...

The problem with solid paint colour is that it is relatively rough compared to metallic which has an extra layer of 'shine' which acts like a sheild... The sheidl has the shiney bits in which make the car metallic.

The frozen white is a solid colour, so does not have this sheild. This means grit and dirt can get into the small holes and gaps in the paintwork.

FORD do a package for 199.00 called something like pro-guard... which adds the extra layer to the paint to make it have the same residule effect at metallic. This greatly reduces the need to wax, polish and ESPECIALLY TCut the car.

Tuctting is for older cars, say 5 or 6 years old, and should only be done once every 2-3 years MAXIMUM! as Tcutting removes a layer of paint every time it is done. It should be done on one car no more than 3 times in its lifetime.

So, to conclude cutting a new car is OUT! even if it is a solid colour. Adding Pro-Guard to a car (its added at factory build level) will make the paintwork as easy to care for as a metallic paint.

If the pro-guard isn't used then the solid colours will have to be polished regularly (by regularly I mean every few months, around 4 times a year).

The Pro-Guard i a very good option though as it saves time, energy and money in the long run and as solid paint is 500 cheaper than metalic you are still making a saving of 300 on the paint!

If anyone wants any more info on the pro-guard stuff tell me and Ill scan in the leaflet I got from the dealers today.


P.s. I'm going for white with the pro-guard. Pro-Guard also makes the paint alot more shiney and smoother too! Your local dealer will probably have a bonnet of a solid colour (mine was blue) which half had pro-guard and half didn't. The feel and look of the paint was amazingly better on the pro-guard'ed side.

Just food for thought guys :)

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Posted 21 March 2009 - 03:34 PM

For God sake dont use T-cut on metallic paint. Its too abrasive and will damage the paint let alone cutting compound. IMHO both should be retired to history. Meguiars clay and a decent polishing regime will mean you will never need to use anything as harsh as they are on any colour car.

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