Zurrieq Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Omg lol. Maybe then if it is that high ill have to live with them :) lol been using the car 4 3 days np with it so clearly just electronics x) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiesta1.25 Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 That was a ford dealer remember..... I'm sure your friend of a friend could add a decimal point in to that price:-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zurrieq Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Yeh or maybe something like this if he can't http://www.jamessimpson.co.uk/elmconfig-enable-ford-ecu-functions/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiesta1.25 Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Now that looks like an awesome piece of kit (if it does what it says on the tin), it will make interesting reading when I get the chance, any idea how much they cost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zurrieq Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Asked him iff it works for a fiesta and then ill ask him if he got anyones already modified. Otherwise around £9.59 then you have to modify it to make it a writer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiesta1.25 Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Sounds good as long as its not too complicated to operate :-p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zurrieq Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Actually the program seems ok to operate quick to do and you can back up settings too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiesta1.25 Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 If it does as its told then that is a well spent £9.59 then drive by your nearest dealership sticking your fingers up at them lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zurrieq Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Well actually i would not do that cause they are the only guys who I trust to fix my car. I had someone fix my injector seals and he killed my injectors... Had to have them do the repairs... From then on I dont trust anyone as usual services oil change etc i do myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiesta1.25 Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Was just meaning that they have a bad reputation (all dealers not just ford) for their astronomical repair bills Yes piece of mind is always key, but I have found a brilliant independant garage with huge savings over dealer repair cost,they are very professional and trustworthy, they did my timing belt on my old car and a fraction of the cost. Anyway back to your topic.... Has your headlight switch arrived yet? Would be cool if that fixed all the electronic issues on your car:-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zurrieq Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Lucky you!! Lol Nope no switch yet... Now I am doubting that it is from the switch anyway. Cause the click is the same as to when it gives the signal to move the wiper even the old gem used to do this click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zurrieq Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Hope that guy tells me that the programing can be done using the elm lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiesta1.25 Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 I still think it could be the switch because if the GEM tries to override the switch(like you said earlier) then fitting the ont that the GEM actually is programmed to then that should be the jackpot? I could be wrong(hope I'm not) If I am then I would contact the programmer guy and hope he can sort it then worst case scenario a trip to your local ford dealer with a heavy wallet :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zurrieq Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Yes your reasoning make sense :) hope i dont need to overload my wallet lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zurrieq Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 The switch did not arrive yet :((( Actually though I dont have other issues. Just a small question what are the main differneces bbetwwen the fiesta and the fusion? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zurrieq Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Cause this is for the fusion http://www.fusionguru.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=4950 Need to translate to understand not at home at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiesta1.25 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I'm not at home either but will translate it once I get I to my computer. Tbh I'm not 100% sure if all the differences between the fusion and the fiesta, I think they are essentially the same car, using the same chassis and a lot of the same components and parts.... I'm pretty sure I have seen parts(even the GEM) listed on eBay as for fiesta/fusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zurrieq Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 So the program should work xD xxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiesta1.25 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I wouldn't like to say so for sure, but I think its be worth a try? Still not had the chance to translate that link you sent but I will as soon as poss and I'll let you know what I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zurrieq Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Yeh i will have access to a pc tomorrow so i cant do it tonight. Unfortunetly though this will probably work on the facelift only i think My conclusion to why there are 3 types if GEMS (1st 4 letters) 2s6t for cars with only 1 CAN 4s6t for pre facelift with 2 CAN 6s6t for facelift with 2 CAN "In vehicles built from MY 2003.75, an additional second CAN bus system is used depending upon vehicle model." Hence why 2 GEMs for the prefacelift Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiesta1.25 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Think your knowledge has surpassed mine lol, do you know what the 2 CAN bus system on the pre facelift has that the 1 CAN doesn't? Also how did you work out that the 2CAN was introduced In the 3rd quarter of 2003? When I was upgrading mine I was told(or I read somewhere) that ford did change the GEM in that year and they weren't compatible with the later pre facelift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zurrieq Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Feature wise I think they are same. Just the speed at which they communicate as in 2s6t on the HScan (since only 1 i am assuming it is an HS) while the 4s6t communicates on the MScan For details on the electronics see http://ford.workshop-manuals.com/Fiesta_2002.25_11.2001/index.php?id=1068 For details on the GEM see http://ford.workshop-manuals.com/Fiesta_2002.25_11.2001/index.php?id=1112 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zurrieq Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 I managed to translate the GEM part of the program from russion and it currently looks like this. Центральный замок Управление ЦЗ с ДУ 0ткрывание багажника с ДЧ 0ткрывание багажника при вкл эажиегании 0ткрываь багажника двойным нажатием ДЧ Кнопка багажника в салоне Запрет отпирания ЦЗ из салона Central locking Managing Remote Power Door Locks 0tkryvanie boot to a TM 0tkryvanie boot at startup eazhieganii 0tkryva trunk by double-clicking DF Button inside the trunk The prohibition of the release of CH salon Концевики Концевик капота Концевики дверей НР типа Концевики задних дверей Праворульный авто Концевики багажника Концевики багажника НР типа limit switches the engine hood HP-type door switch Limit switches back doors RHD cars trunk switch HP trunk switch type Опции Опция датчик цожця / света Опция - подогрев заднего стекла/зеркал Опция - складные зеркала Опция - обогрев лобового стекла Опция - климат контроль Кнопка складывания зеркал в салоне Автоматическое включение фар Настройка через ВК (Запрет щаманства) Наличие заднего дворника options Option tsozhtsya sensor / light Option - heated rear window / mirror The - folding mirrors The - heated windshield Option - Climate control Button folding mirrors in the salon Auto-On Headlights Setting up a VC (Prohibition schamanstva) Having a rear wiper Фишки и прелести Махать дворниками при омывании Дополнительный взмах дворников Выстрые замки (отменяет хитрые замки) Дожиматв замки, если были открыты двери Зацний дворник при задней передаче Колесико регулировки прер. режи. дрворн. Chips and charms Wipers when wash cycle swing Additional wipers sweep Rds locks (disables tricky locks) Dozhimatv locks if the doors were opened Zatsny wiper when rear transmission Click Wheel prairie. mode. drvorn. Настройки изменяемые с ВК Запирание при начале движения Вкл аварийку при экстрениом торможении Три вспышки поворотов при перестроении Пошаговое отпирание ЦЗ с ДУ Складывание Зеркал при Запирании Посадочные огни The settings are changed with VC Locking when the beginning of the movement On emergency gang emergency braking Three flash of turns when you rebuild Step by step unlocking Remote Power Door Locks Folding Mirrors when locking landing lights Непроверенное Длинный импульс хлыста или хитрые замки untried Long pulse whip or clever locks Somethings I still can't understand what I do. The program can get your asbuilt data so you would know what you have and what you dont installed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiesta1.25 Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Have you made any progress with your programming of the GEM? Or fitted your new headlight switch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zurrieq Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Nope :(. Switch arrived just found no time to change it yet but should do it this weekend. Elm cable still on the way and am still translating the program... Will keep you posted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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