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#1 FOCA

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Posted 18 May 2013 - 03:51 AM

Well my car did not seem like it was performing right 

 

The turbo seemed to be making a new noise scince i came back from the rolling road dyno, and it seemed a bit "laggy" and did not seem to be picking up so well from really low revs

 

it was hard to say though, and i know these things can be deceptive, i thought i would test it and compare it to some previous figures (i kept detailed acceleration figures during the development of the car)

 

(disclaimer - all timing done safely off road, i have over 8 years with no accidents, claims or convictions, i don't speed on the road and i have special skills & training,  - stay safe/ don't time yourself when you are driving!) 

 

I thought i would use a high gear to check it right so i found a suitable stretch of tarmac and timed my 50-70mph using the speedo and stopwatch (and stopwatch operator)

 

i did it then looked at the stopwatch 5.0 seconds! i squinted at it thinking it must be a 6 , we tested it again this time slightly uphill, making sure i was in top and  pressing the start button before 50, and stopped it after 70 (and it really was 50 and 70)-   5.3 seconds  

 

We tested it the same way Autocar do - accelerating "through" the timed points.

 

This got me thinking - how does that time compare to other cars like hot hatches and supercars?

 

i made a list -

 

(often cars have 6 or 7 (or even more) gears, and the 50-70mph is timed in 5th), and the times i have aquired do not state which gear, its in, Supercars often have stratospheric top speeds & gearing to match - so are right out of the power at 50 in top. other cars have big, torky V8 engines and "low" gearing (Range Rover) or electric motors with massive torque at low revs (Honda hybrid) race/ rally cars are sometimes fitted with low gearing - the Mondeo has its standard gearing from the factory (5-speed mtx 75) - in this test, the 5-speed has the advantage, but it does not have a ridiculusly low top / final drive with a 130/140ish top speed (Autobanns, of course!) - ive put the top speed in to give a comparison,  the 5.9 is an old figure, recorded last year, when the car was heavier, the speedo  and using the stopwatch is not accurate so i just put the 50-70 in my signature a conservative "< 6"

 

I often get told "but you could just drop agear/ 3 gears" but that is not the test, there is a 70mph limit in this country/ nation, so how fast the car goes from 100 to 130 is not important, (because there is a 70mph limit)  dropping gears every time you need to overtake takes time  a quick 50-70mph is important for quick, safe, legal overtaking, and reduces you TED (time exposed to danger) off dual carrigways (in response to "why does you car need to be so fast/ quick" questions )  

 

 
 

50-70mph in top-

 

Merc Mclaren SLR 2.4 sec (top) fastest ever recorded in a production car at the time 30-50mph 1.7 sec (5- speed auto)

 

Bugatti Veyron 2.3 sec (1000Hp)

 

Bugatti Veyron SS 3.1/2.3 in 6th/ 5th 1200ps 7-speed 268mph 0-60mph 2.3secs 1836kgs

 

McLaren F1 3.7/2.8 sec in 6th/ 5th (6-speed box)

 

Ferrari f40 4.0 sec (in 5th - 5 speed box)

 

Ferrari F50 4.4/3.3 in 6th/5th (6sp box)

 

Range Rover Sport 4.4 sec (5L v8 502hp461ibft 140mph)S-charged

 

De Tamaso pantera 4.7 sec

 

Range Rover Evoque 4.9 sec

 

Honda accord hybrid 5.1 sec (US 3.0v6 255hp 232ft lbf) 8.6mph 0-60 137mph

 

TVR Cerbera 5.47 sec

 

Saleen S7 does it in 5.6 sec

 

>My mondeo tddi est. 5.9 secs /4.98 secs in 4th (old) - new 5.0secs  in top (5th) 4.3secs in 4th (on speedo) speed geared for 130/140mph approx 1400kgs)<

 

Merc sl65 black 6.0 sec

 

 

Focus ST3 - 6.1 / 5.1 in 6th/ 5th  (6-spd) 247bhp 340Nm 154mph  1362kgs

 

De Tamaso Pantera gts 6.1 sec

 

Lambo Gallardo 6.2 sec

 

Focus RS 6.3 sec (6th)

 

Ferrari F430 6.4 sec (4.3L v8 490hp343lb ft 196mph/0-60- 4sec /0-100- 9.2sec 1450kgs)

 

BMW M5 6.4 sec

 

Porsche cayman 6.7 sec

 

2010 golf gti 6.7 sec

 

BMW M3 '95 7.3 sec

 

Testarossa 7.4 sec (in 5th / 5 speed box)

 

Ford GT 7.4 sec

 

Golf r32 7.6 sec

 

Mazdaspeed MX-5 7.6 sec

 

Toyota prius C 7.6 sec

 

Lotus Carlton 7.7 sec (5th?) 6 - speed manual

 

911 Turbo S 7.8 sec

 

Fiesta ST2 - 7.9 sec 6th / 6.0 in 5th

 

BMW 330D 8.4/5.7/4.7/3.7 8th/7th/6th/5th 8sp auto 3.0L luxury touring 255hp 560Nm 0-60mph 5.8secs

 

Porche Boxter 2.7 8.5 sec

 

lotus exige 8.5 sec

 

C6 Z06 8.8 sec

 

Cobra mustang GT500 8.8 sec

 

Mazda MX-5 8.9 sec (127 mph 1040kg)

 

Civic type R 8.9 sec

 

1999 Mustang fr500 9.0 sec (4.9L twin-cam v8 415hp/365lb-ft 168mph 4.5sec/60..13sec.at110mph 1/4 mile )

 

Mondeo ST220 9.1 sec in 5th? - 5sp version (151mph) 0-60-6.8/7.4secs 0-100mph 20.8secs/18secs)

 

Golf gti mk1 9.1 sec (in 4th?) (geared for 115mph)

 

C6 Z51 does it in 9.1 sec

 

Fiesta ST150 9.2sec (in 5th)

 

2000 BMW 320D 9.3 sec (in 5th - 5 speed manual 136bhp/206lb-ft 129mph)

 

2004 mustang GT 9.5 sec

 

Impreza WRX 9.5 sec

 

BMW 545i 9.5 sec

 

Mustang shelby gt500 9.6 sec

 

Viper SRT10 9.8 sec

 

Subaru BRZ LTD 10 sec (top) 6spd 139mph (200hp/150ft-lbs 2.0 flat-4 vvt)

 

Sierra cosworth Rs500 10.1 sec

 

Audi a4 Avant 10.7/6.7/5.0 in 7th/6th/5th 7speed 3.0L TDI auto estate quattro 242hp 500Nm 0-60 5.9secs 1725kgs

 

Escort xr3i 11.3 sec (in 4th?)

 

Mondeo ST-TDCI 11.6 sec (in 6th) 6.5 (in 5th)

 

Pontiac Solstice 13.5 sec

 

Dodge viper 14 / 5 - 6th/ 5th 6sp box (14.6/5.9 2003 model)

 

Focus 1.6L 2009 (5-speed) - 14.5 sec  

 

  

 

 



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Posted 18 May 2013 - 02:17 PM

shows your mondy fares quite well against the big boys! it surprises me though that the bigger boys take longer!

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Posted 18 May 2013 - 02:30 PM

Ive got a target now for my Vans performance LOL.

 

Surprised at some of the figures from more "sporting" offerings



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Posted 18 May 2013 - 02:54 PM

but what supercar ever accelerates from 50-70 in top gear... there still in second usually!!! lol



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Posted 18 May 2013 - 04:43 PM

shows your mondy fares quite well against the big boys! it surprises me though that the bigger boys take longer!

 

you want to drive a Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X FQ400 there is so much lag (turbos are massive) , if your not in right gear you start to jerk and its wanting to stall... in 5th gear  50-70 would take it about 9-10 secs but drop it down a gear thats a different story in the FQ400 you need to be in right gear to have all that power or lag will eat you up

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Posted 18 May 2013 - 07:24 PM

shows your mondy fares quite well against the big boys! it surprises me though that the bigger boys take longer!

The mondeo is already at 1800rpm which equals about 70Bhp and 100ft-lbs (135Nm) at 50mph, which is probably more than many of the supercars/ performance cars (at these speeds in top gear) a lot of performance / supercars have very high gearing (for the high top speed) and the power/ torque comes higher up the rev range

 

this makes the Mondeo vey quick in the midrange/ overtaking/ out of bends/ cross country (for what it is) and it can almost never be "cought out" in the wrong gear - it is not as strong (realative to performance cars) 0-60 or at high speed but im working on that      



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Posted 18 May 2013 - 07:27 PM

The 2.2TDCi is rapid also... Even the 155 version... The newer 200bhp version is stupidly quick!



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Posted 18 May 2013 - 10:04 PM

but what supercar ever accelerates from 50-70 in top gear... there still in second usually!!! lol

Interesting point - but what if it was in top - you can't drive around in second gear all day, if you are just "crusing" along you are liable to be in top -

 

So you are in top, in traffic, at 50mph, a gap emerges where you can accelerate upto 70mph, in my Mondeo, you just press the accelerator, without having to change down, this gives an immedeate advantage (you would be surprised how long it takes to change gear) and allows the Mondeo to pull ahead initially

 

I timed the 50-70mph in 4th and its now 4.3seconds, on the speedo (used to be 5.0secs)  

 

I suppose if you are a Cop (or a robber!) or drive on German Autobahns your 70 to 100mph or more would be important, but for us law abiding UK motorists 70mph is the limit for now, so the speed supercars can achieve is largely academic/ is meaningless

 

Took me a while to realise that    



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Posted 19 May 2013 - 04:03 AM

The 2.2TDCi is rapid also... Even the 155 version... The newer 200bhp version is stupidly quick!

 

My modded 2.0L...........30-70mph 6.7secs  50-70mph in top   5secs   /  4th 4.3secs  (on speedo)  (5-speed box)

ST- TDCI 2.2L 155PS - 30-70mph 8.3secs  50-70mph in top 11.6secs / 5th 6.5secs / 4th 4.9secs (6- speed box)

 

A stock ST-TDCI would need to be in 4th to match the top gear 50 to 70, and have a Bluefin/ remap, decat & large FMIC to match the top gear 50-70mph >>>in 5th<<<! (that would bring the 50-70mph >in 5th< down to about 5 secs)

 

to put the 6.7second 30-70mph (on speedo, using 3rd/ 4th) acceleration into perspective, the new 247Bhp Focus is only slightly quicker at 6.5second, the 50 - 70 in top is slower in the st  (me 5.0 - 2013 Focus ST 6.1)

 

The early mk4 2.2Ls are the best ones - they can be remapped to 220Hp they are a bit heavy though (hatch is 200kg more than my lightened estate!) and i would be surprised if they could get anywhere near the FOCA- mobiles 50-70mph in top (looked for figures but could not find them)   

 

I keep doing more work on it and it keeps  getting quicker - it does seem to have plenty power for safe overtaking!



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Posted 19 May 2013 - 08:20 AM

do you never sleep?? lol! Just taking mick at time you replied LOL



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Posted 19 May 2013 - 12:56 PM

Never!

 

I found a Mondeo  ST220 performance table - the ST220 30-70mph Works out at 6.8secs, i timed a 6.7sec 30-70, this was a target i had set (to match/ beat the ST220 acceleration) so i am pleased with that (even though its just the 30-70mph/ the 50-70mph in top is already a lot quicker )

 

Looks like ive got myself a quick car there!   



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Posted 23 February 2014 - 01:02 AM

Coolest thread ever!

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Posted 23 February 2014 - 08:08 PM

Haha, an interesting take on speed, but you do have a point!

 

I wonder how a 1.6 petrol Focus would compare LOL



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Posted 23 February 2014 - 09:23 PM

Coolest thread ever!

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thanks! - i almost forgot about it - i might add a few more cars to the list!   



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Posted 23 February 2014 - 09:29 PM

Haha, an interesting take on speed, but you do have a point!

 

I wonder how a 1.6 petrol Focus would compare LOL

 

14.5 seconds - i found these specs -  

 

 

2009 Focus 1,6L

 

5 speed 1290kgs 116PS/114Hp 160Nm/ 118ft-lbs at 4250rpm

 

0-60mph- 11.6secs 0-100mph-36.6secs. - top speed 116mph

 

50-70mph in top (5th) 14.5secs

 

Alll offroad/ on the autobahn, of course!

 

Not the quickest car on the road but close to the Dodge Viper 50-70mph in top! - i will add it to the list  

 

 



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