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#16 jd_james

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Posted 28 November 2013 - 11:21 AM

To be honest I think there are issues with the clutch on reversing on these cars if people are getting the same issue as me. I am on 7500 miles now, no burning on forward driving or through gears its just reverse and I do not excessively use the reverse gear. Its not normal to have such a grown on reversing and for it to struggle so much. Sometimes I feel it is going to snap!



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Posted 28 November 2013 - 11:48 AM

Am I right in thinking that this problem (if it gets worse and eventually breaks) should be covered under warranty if the car is under 3 years and 60k



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Posted 28 November 2013 - 11:52 AM

Well i was told warranty on clutch is 12 months i am now at around 8 I can't confirm if its going to break but I know for sure it is getting worse and explained in previous post back in June I have always had this issue.

 

Some may say why didn't you take it back straight away and my argument is that I thought it was just the way the car was being a new style of engine and if it got worse I would take it in (which it has done). I have never had a new car before so didn't know what to expect with "breaking them in" with it happening so early on I thought it was a matter of breaking it in and the engine settling down.



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Posted 28 November 2013 - 11:52 AM

No doubt they will say its wear and tear.


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Posted 28 November 2013 - 11:54 AM

No doubt they will say its wear and tear.


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In my instance I feel i have a strong leg to stand on with the fact I've had it since the start and its been documented on here. There is no way wear and tear will cause this fault straight away on reversing. 

No issues going forward with burning or whirling noises.



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Posted 28 November 2013 - 12:08 PM

I totally agree with you and would say take it to another dealer

When Ford diagnosed a problem with it did they say why they wouldn't do anything?


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Posted 28 November 2013 - 12:40 PM

Mine is not a Ecoboost but it is hard to get in to reverse, sometimes you think its in and release the clutch and it grinds, other times it just jumps out of reverse gear. Mine has been this way since new.



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Posted 16 February 2014 - 01:45 PM

Just to add to this guy's I sent it back to Bristol Street who reluctantly fixed it and tried to blame me however it don't occur now with a brand new clutch.

Have around 10k miles on car worth about 2000 from a new clutch :)

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Posted 16 February 2014 - 07:01 PM

Mine is not a Ecoboost but it is hard to get in to reverse, sometimes you think its in and release the clutch and it grinds, other times it just jumps out of reverse gear. Mine has been this way since new.


I have this problem and I have the ecoboost :/

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Posted 16 February 2014 - 07:02 PM

May be worth getting your reg and taking it too ford dealers asking why they are fixing some but not all for the same fault??

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Posted 16 February 2014 - 07:17 PM

Just as an FYI the B5 and IB5 has no synchro on reverse, which is why it won't always mesh right when you try and select reverse. Put it back in neutral and lift the clutch to spin the input shaft then try reverse. It should go in then. As for the groan this is common with any reverse gear on any manual car. Reverse gear uses straight cut teeth but forward gears use curved(helical) gears. 

 

Also any Fiesta with a 5spd will do this, whether it be a '95 Endura mk4 or a brand new Ecoboost Titanium X.



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Posted 16 February 2014 - 07:42 PM

Spot on Jake

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Posted 16 February 2014 - 07:51 PM

Just as an FYI the B5 and IB5 has no synchro on reverse, which is why it won't always mesh right when you try and select reverse. Put it back in neutral and lift the clutch to spin the input shaft then try reverse. It should go in then. As for the groan this is common with any reverse gear on any manual car. Reverse gear uses straight cut teeth but forward gears use curved(helical) gears. 

 

Also any Fiesta with a 5spd will do this, whether it be a '95 Endura mk4 or a brand new Ecoboost Titanium X.

 

 

Not the groan I had since my new clutch does not do this.

 

I don't know much about cars but they explained that it was something within the core of the clutch. 

 

As far as the reverse is concerned you do know after driving forwards you're supposed to leave it 5-10 seconds to let the engine wind down before going into reverse else it will crunch? 



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Posted 16 February 2014 - 08:02 PM

Release bearings and thrust bearings can get noisy too. Don't affect performance, just sound annoying and affect fords like anything too. Mine does it, which means I end up having my foot on the clutch all the time...

As far as leaving the engine to settle. 1 second is the most you need really. 10 will just end being an inconvenience and you'll look like somebody who passed their test that morning. As said before. If it doesn't want to go in. Just lift the clutch in neutral to spin everything and try again.

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