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#1 jmurray01

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 09:14 PM

No, I'm not talking about the three course meal you had tonight (though I do feel rather bloated...), I'm talking about whether or not you have a spare tyre in your car? 

 

I realise that owners of new Fords probably won't because I don't think there is even the facility for one anymore (?), but for owners of older vehicles - do you have one loaded up or go without?

 

Years ago car manufacturers ALWAYS advised you had a spare tyre and people generally saw them as essential, but these days people seem to think "nah, I'll never get a puncture" and leave the spare in the garage just to save a tiny (and that is all it is) amount of fuel.

 

I would never be able to relax in a car that didn't have a spare tyre, especially at night! 

 

I'm happy to say the Focus has its spare tyre with jack and wrench in the tyre well so if anything should happen to any of the tyres, I'm covered.  Yes the spare is quite bald and scuffed on the inner edge, but it holds air and that's all that matters when you're stuck at the side of the road on a rainy night with a flat and just want to get home! 

 

So, do you risk it or go prepared? 



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Posted 11 July 2013 - 09:52 PM

My MK2 has a space saver (horrible things) and my MK2.5 work one has a full size but is a pig to get at because it's buried under about 50 kg of plywood kennel.

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 11:28 PM

No, I'm not talking about the three course meal you had tonight (though I do feel rather bloated...), I'm talking about whether or not you have a spare tyre in your car? 

 

I realise that owners of new Fords probably won't because I don't think there is even the facility for one anymore (?), but for owners of older vehicles - do you have one loaded up or go without?

 

Years ago car manufacturers ALWAYS advised you had a spare tyre and people generally saw them as essential, but these days people seem to think "nah, I'll never get a puncture" and leave the spare in the garage just to save a tiny (and that is all it is) amount of fuel.

 

I would never be able to relax in a car that didn't have a spare tyre, especially at night! 

 

I'm happy to say the Focus has its spare tyre with jack and wrench in the tyre well so if anything should happen to any of the tyres, I'm covered.  Yes the spare is quite bald and scuffed on the inner edge, but it holds air and that's all that matters when you're stuck at the side of the road on a rainy night with a flat and just want to get home! 

 

So, do you risk it or go prepared? 

Your car is otherwise legal with the bald spare tyre but -

 

If you do have a puncture and you put the bald one on - if you get stopped or are unfortunate to have an accident (say someone runs into you) - thats 3 points and a £40 per bald tyre - so if i were you - i would leave that one at home,  

 

The 5-stud 16" (205/55/16) (mondeo mk3/4, Focus mk2 ) weighs 17.4 kgs, with the jack/ brace brings it up to about 20kgs - thats a lot of weight and you will feel it in the car,  for handling, accelerating braking, and traction (especially on snow/ ice & mud)

 

The (5-stud) spacesaver weighs in at 11kgs, personally if i had to carry a spare, i would make it a full size one (for the sake of 6.4kgs - a spacesaver is speed-limited to 50mph and not very "grippy") - and i would make sure mine held air, and was legal and even also a decent make of tyre with decent grip

 

I don't run a spare, just a can of tyreweld and a floorpump (together approx 1kg) although the car is 150kgs lighter than stock, (due to stripping un-nessisary weight, and lightweight parts) the spare is still the heaviest single component, putting it back in would undo a lot of the work done

 

The payload is also increased  to 740kgs - about the same as a small van - the payload on a small car may not be that much and removing the spare increases it by the weight of the wheel

 

Its a difficult one - its a pity a spare is so heavy     



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Posted 12 July 2013 - 07:14 AM

I take your point (no pun intended) but the chances of being pulled over when the car is insured, Taxed and MOTd are a lot slimmer than getting a puncture - so I'll take my chances if I have to use the spare.

 

Although the police would never admit this - I would put a pretty good bet that a bald full size tyre provides more traction than a new "doughnut" tyre. 

 

Besides, it isn't completely bald, it is just a touch below the legal limit (which incidentally would still be legal in America as their limit is 1.2mm - which it is above).



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Posted 12 July 2013 - 08:10 AM

My Fiesta never came with one annoyingly but i ordered a new wheel when i hit a "pothole" which in second thoughts may have been a chasm in the road and it bent my steel wheel... very kindly they gave me a full size spare with tyre for free :D nice company have used them ever since 



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Posted 12 July 2013 - 10:17 AM

I have a poor spacesaver, and also a tyre weld kit... Start with the weld, and replace if necessary...



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Posted 12 July 2013 - 10:19 AM

I got a full size 17" steel spare tyre, heavy stuff but it gives me max confidence on the road, i don't have breakdown cover, never had it before don't want it, i think if breakdown cover is needed, the car isn't for me. those foam can things doesn't help incase of a blow outs and although that is very unlikely, it's also very unlikely i would be driving my car without needing to be somewhere at a specific time.

 

From my experience tyres are very impressive stuff. i have seen people do 70mph on space savers and run flat tyres, chatting away and laughing, I do not believe they are aware of the limitation with such tyres.

 

For the sake of your licence get rid of that bald tyre, £15 (£10 many places round my area) for a used tyre at any used tyre shop. Insurance is far too expensive to take that risk, never mind the police. a blow out damaging someone else's car can lead to a whole new level of insurance headache. Just talking about insurance makes me sick lol



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Posted 12 July 2013 - 10:20 AM

my fiesta had a repair kit of what ever you call it, it was factory, if you took the spare full sizer wheel they took the other repair kit away. dont ask why lol cause there is the space to put both underneatht eh boot



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Posted 12 July 2013 - 01:59 PM

Used tyres are a good alternative only for a spare, as you need to drive at lesser speeds. Its better to have a part worn than a bald for this purpose, but your own sake (anyone reading this) dont ever get part worn tyres, unless its your mother who gives you them off her car. She most likely wouldnt want to see you dead and would give you the full truth about them!



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Posted 12 July 2013 - 04:50 PM

my punto evo had one of those puncture repair 12v compressor kits in its boot went straight to the scrappy for a spare, theyre useless if you get blow out anyway and i could just imagine my mrs trying to fill up a shredded tyre because the instructions said to



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Posted 12 July 2013 - 05:15 PM

Using the inflation pack ruins the wheel anyway, it sticks to everything and is near impossible to get it off.

Ok for the dealer when they charge you £300 for a new wheel though.



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Posted 12 July 2013 - 07:23 PM

Nope, I use my spare wheel well for putting stuff for if I get stuck in winter or as of now, bbq's :P

 

I can always ring the RAC if I need a wheel :P



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Posted 13 July 2013 - 07:09 AM

I was lucky mine came with a 16 inch full tyre on steel rim, still only good for short distances though as it doesn't look the same as the 17 inch alloys. Would hate to have to drive on a space saver on a motorway at the 50mph it says on them. My parents Mitsubishi asx only came with a can of tyre foam.

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Posted 13 July 2013 - 10:18 AM

Ordered a spacesaver, do not like the idea of repair thingy, have heard too many bad things.

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Posted 13 July 2013 - 03:22 PM

I found this -

 

http://answers.halfo...0/questions.htm

 

With the tyreweld the maximum recommended speed is 30mph (its designed as an emergency to "get you home")  

 

The tyre cannot be used again, but the wheel can have the tyreweld cleaned off and used again (as long as it was not damaged during the puncture when driven with the tyre flat)

 

a 500ml can is only big enough for upto 16" wheel, if the wheel is bigger than this 2 cans are required

 

A spacesaver is limited to 50mph/ 80kph  they are not  very grippy and again are designed just to get you home or untill you can get you full size tyre repaired or replaced - on a front engined, front wheel drive car, it is safer to put the spacesaver on the back

 

A full size spare (legal,(1.6mm or better) in decent condition and a good make, will perform just as well or even better than a larger- diameter alloy wheel/ tyre (eg a good set of 205/55/16s on steel rims will outperform cheap 18" tyres on 18" alloys (even if they dont look as pretty)



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