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#16 Focus_IRE

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 09:38 AM

Hey lads,

 

Why is it illegal to use your fogs as DRLs? all new volvos and others have their fogs as DRLs as they can go off when you turn on the headlights which is what I have done using the switcher relay, I cannot see how this can be illegal I may be wrong tho.

 

And another one whats the difference between illegal and unlawful?????

 

Illegal - is a sick bird :D  :P  :D  :P  :D



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#17 alexp999

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 09:49 AM

I think fogs are too bright normally. I imagine when used as DRLs they are not on full brightness.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 11:12 AM

Just curious now is all, LEDs would be classed as brighter that fogs as the lumen output is strong thats why I am putting this out there just to find out is there an actual law to say about fogs?

 

I understand here in Ireland that fog lights are classed as illegal but everyone has them on and nobody gets stopped with them?



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Posted 26 August 2013 - 05:58 PM

I dont actually know the answer, but always though it was a lens thing, as in the good old days you could buy front fog lights and also front driving lights so I have always based my thoughts on this. DRL are bright but don't illuminate far in front of car where fogs blast light in all directions, but as i said I dont know the official reason, this is me be a sad old git and looking to deep into things  :huh:



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Posted 26 August 2013 - 06:44 PM

It is unlawful to use front fog lights as DRL because they are not aimed as per dipped lights and will reflect off a road and produce a possible dazzling effect.

 

It is against the Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations (1989).

 

LED DRL do not reflect in the same way and dim when sidelights go on, and off when main headlights go on.

Most cars that appear to have foglights converted as DRL will usually be a two part light, one part will be fog lights (activated by a dedicated switch) and another part will be an LED ring or section (activated on ignition and controlled by a dedicated relay). 

This is most obvious on newer Mini's.



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Posted 26 August 2013 - 06:47 PM

Illegal means "against or not authorized by law."

Unlawful means "contrary to, prohibited, or unauthorized by law...while necessarily not implying the element of criminality, it is broad enough to include it."



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Posted 26 August 2013 - 07:44 PM


Illegal - is a sick bird :D  :P  :D  :P  :D


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Posted 26 August 2013 - 08:10 PM

It is unlawful to use front fog lights as DRL because they are not aimed as per dipped lights and will reflect off a road and produce a possible dazzling effect.

 

It is against the Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations (1989).

 

LED DRL do not reflect in the same way and dim when sidelights go on, and off when main headlights go on.

Most cars that appear to have foglights converted as DRL will usually be a two part light, one part will be fog lights (activated by a dedicated switch) and another part will be an LED ring or section (activated on ignition and controlled by a dedicated relay). 

This is most obvious on newer Mini's.

So my thoughts are correct   :)



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Posted 26 August 2013 - 09:16 PM

So my thoughts are correct   :)

 

Indeed.



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Posted 27 August 2013 - 06:42 AM

Good man Clive thanks for clearing that up was actually really curious hope nobody wasa offended with what I was asking. :)



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Posted 27 August 2013 - 09:06 AM

we Brit's dont get offended... we just get even... :P

 

Lenny, glad to be of assistance :) hopefully most your mod's can now be found on your own little island. That way saving you taxes, time and hassle as seems to be the case with most UK sellers ;)

 

As for everyone elses comments, thanks :) I still want to try and keep small mod's adding to the list, but at the moment, I can only just convince the missus that I need to do my repairs. Just finished fixing the boot switch, if only I could fit a hydraulic pump kit that on pushing the switch, it then pumps the hydraulic rams out and auto opens the boot... that would be cool, but no doubt, expensive :P



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Posted 27 August 2013 - 03:15 PM

Had a few idea's for a few small mod's - wondering what people think?

 

1) vent chrome strips:

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2) door sill protectors (carbon fibre look):

$T2eC16FHJHYE9nzpcCu-BRJm8CchO!~~60_12.J

 

3) window chrome:

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What do you think?



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Posted 28 August 2013 - 07:34 PM

James:

1. looked at theese myself but come to the conclusion, when looking at the entire dash might look cheap tat.  :(

2. I like where you seen them  :)

3. liking that too if the quality's there  :)



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Posted 29 August 2013 - 09:58 AM

The actual chrome bits are here: http://www.ebay.co.u...=item4170724685 but i was looking for a cheaper option,
 
The scuttle plates are here: http://cgi.ebay.co.u...E:X:RTQ:GB:1123 but I just bought the last set of four :)
 
as for the vents, I think I am starting to agree with you on that :)

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 02:15 PM

scuttle plates have been relisted but forgot you have a C max and i got a focus, they say dont fit  :(



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