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#1 shamus1

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 01:56 PM

hi folks is there any kit you can buy to programme the egr valve on the 2.0 tdci so you don't have to take it to ford,before I bought my car it had a new one fitted and car runs fine when hot but when cold first start runs lumpy but starts instantly,if I unplug egr when its lumpy its perfect so have searched the web and found a few posts of exactly the same thing but they had not had the egr programmed?so am thinking previous owner never had it programmed any thoughts,many thanks.



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Posted 06 September 2013 - 02:38 PM

as far as i know the egr valve is a straight swap with no programming required,have you checked to see if the valve is sticking or gummed up with carbon?



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Posted 06 September 2013 - 08:17 PM

from everything I have read it has to be programmed on the focus 2.0 tdci,yes took valve off and cleaned it wasn't very dirty you could tell it was new.



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Posted 06 September 2013 - 09:35 PM

Buy a blanking plate off ebay, about a fiver. Jobs done, basically bypasses it, and has no effect on performance. Some say it may throw a light up every now and then, but a cheap code reader will delete when necessary.

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 08:13 AM

if I blank it and drill a small hole in blank will that stop the light coming on ?



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Posted 07 September 2013 - 09:07 AM

Tbh I don't no of any that's come on..... mine hasn't but I have the 1.8..... it enhances performance if ur other is dud.....

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 09:23 AM

anyone out there with the 2 litre tdci blanked and keep getting the mil light on?



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Posted 07 September 2013 - 02:58 PM

if I blank it and drill a small hole in blank will that stop the light coming on ?

If you drill a hole or buy a plate with a hole/ holes already drilled to let the gasses through - it defeats the purpose/ advantages of the plate  and EGR has to be working (a solid plate "fixes" a leaky/ malfunctioning EGR valve/ system  by effectively disabling it)  

 

You should either fit a solid (EGR blanking) plate or not bother fitting a plate,  IMO



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Posted 07 September 2013 - 07:09 PM

Ive just got a blanking plate for 2.0 tdci, need to fit it now, ive got a bluetooth obd reader for my phone so if it ever puts a code up I can delete it , ive got it so it doesn't block my dpf up any faster, hope im right lpl

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 08:02 PM

Ive just got a blanking plate for 2.0 tdci, need to fit it now, ive got a bluetooth obd reader for my phone so if it ever puts a code up I can delete it , ive got it so it doesn't block my dpf up any faster, hope im right lpl

Nice one! - If you take step-by-step photos of what you do, you could make a wee guide for fitting it, as no-one has done one for a 2-litre Focus on here, as far as i'm aware



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Posted 07 September 2013 - 09:20 PM

Ill probably do it within the next few weeks looks easy enough hopefully wont have to take the plastic panel off, think I shud be able to get in with a small socket, the egr plate ive got is one that jusy slides in so don't have to undo it all the way.

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Posted 08 September 2013 - 07:41 AM

hi folks is there any kit you can buy to programme the egr valve on the 2.0 tdci so you don't have to take it to ford,before I bought my car it had a new one fitted and car runs fine when hot but when cold first start runs lumpy but starts instantly,if I unplug egr when its lumpy its perfect so have searched the web and found a few posts of exactly the same thing but they had not had the egr programmed?so am thinking previous owner never had it programmed any thoughts,many thanks.

 

 

It is indeed possible that the previous owner fitted a new EGR valve and did not had it programmed. When an EGR valve is changed on the 1.6 and 2.0 TDCI it must be programmed (calibrated) to the PCM. Basically this means that the full open and full closed position of the EGR valve are told to the PCM. after programming the PCM can determine the exact position of the EGR valve. When a new EGR valve is not programmed to the PCM the PCM still uses the calibration of the old EGR valve. In this case the PCM can think that the EGR is fully closed when it is actually a bit open. 

 

 

I do not know the MOT regulations in the UK but our Dutch annual equivalent of the MOT does not accept a burning MIL light or a stored DTC code which starts with a P. A burning MIL light or a stored DTC code which starts with a P is a direct faillure. In holland a blanking plate is often installed to avoid EGR problems. when instaling a blanking plate it must have a 6 mm hole in it and the EGR valve must be in a good condition otherwise the MIL light will come on and a DTC code is stored.



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Posted 08 September 2013 - 03:08 PM

well started car this morning and idle was very bad hunting,disconnected egr perfect idle so am convinced egr needs programming,does anyone know how much I should expect to pay ford for this,is it part of their diagnostics?



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Posted 08 September 2013 - 06:11 PM

well started car this morning and idle was very bad hunting,disconnected egr perfect idle so am convinced egr needs programming,does anyone know how much I should expect to pay ford for this,is it part of their diagnostics?

Just keep it dissconnected - if the EML (engine management light) comes on just invest in a code reader (from about £20 online) and reset the codes using that

 

If you plan to buy a EGR blanking plate, don't waste your time with one of the ones with holes in, this defeats the purpose of the plate and you may as well not bother  

 

A solid plate "fixes" a faulty or leaking EGR valve by effectively disabling it  a new EGR valve could cost £120+ and who knows what extortionate price Ford will charge you to fit it/ set it up - the plate is aboout £5 (+ the engine will run better with the EGR blanked or disabled )

 

I recommend a solid, stainless steel plate



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Posted 08 September 2013 - 06:26 PM

have been in contact with previous owner and he confirmed his local garge fitted new egr valve for him,my question is is it only ford who can program it with their equipment or can other equipment be used to program it?



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