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#16 alexp999

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 07:26 PM

Once you have used the site a few times you have to register to enter a reg lookup.

 

I did, it is free.



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Posted 11 September 2013 - 07:28 PM

Once you have used the site a few times you have to register to enter a reg lookup.

 

I did, it is free.

so you register as a independent operator?



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Posted 11 September 2013 - 07:29 PM

so you register as a independent operator?

 

Yes, doesn't ask for many details. Then you can do reg lookups as many times as you want.



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Posted 11 September 2013 - 07:30 PM

Yes, doesn't ask for many details. Then you can do reg lookups as many times as you want.

Cheers thats good to know  ;)



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Posted 11 September 2013 - 07:30 PM

Obviously you have to agree to the terms of use though to register :)



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 11:16 AM

Ill also add mine is a 90 bhp and definitely does not have a DPF so looks like the change must of being 2005-2006 the amount of road tax should be a clue too, mine costs £105 per year the ones with DPF are cheaper to tax. 

Mine costs £105 per year too. For the Mk2.5 (2008 ish) they introduced a maintenance free DPF, which means you do not need to add the ELOYS fluid every 37,500 years. This is tax band C, so £30 a year. I was under the impression that only the 1.8s were DPF-free, so if you haven't got one either then you are definitely lucky!



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 12:41 PM

I drive a Fusion 3 1.4 TDCI (at least i think it is looking at the info from Wikipedia: Equipment on the entry-level 1 included a cassette player, central locking, and dual front airbags. The 2 featured electric heated mirrors, electric front windows, a CD player and air conditioning. The 3 added alloy wheels, front fog lights and an alarm. The + model added larger alloys and privacy glass. This + model was introduced in May 2002. Only thing missing from a 3 on mine is alarm)

 

It's nice and spacey, if you have a bad back like my wife the seatheight is perfect to get in.

It's also relatively economical, i write relatively cause it will depend highly on how fast you drive.

If i only drive 80 and 100 km/hr i get at max 64.2 MPG. Driving 120 km/hr will sink it to 39 MPG. Reason being the Fusion has the aerodynamics of a brick so it will get very thirsty real quick when driving fast.

Must say i don't have A label tyres, more like F or G regarding fuel economics. I think if i would fitt Michelin Energy's or similar eco tyres it would likely up the milage by 5 or 6 MPG. (Experience from our other car)

Think the Focus will be more economical at higher speeds in comparison to the Fusion, it has better aerodynamics.

Don't know the difference between the 2 as for insurance and roadtax in England but here in Holland the Fusion is cheaper on both accounts, it doesn't weigh as much as the Focus and it's new price was lower.

 

My Fusion had a DPF, probably because it was imported from Germany and there you need those things to get a green sticker to get into the cities. Because on my reg. papers it said it didn't have one i removed it, just replaced the front pipe with a new one (aftermarket, real cheap).

One of the best moves on the car, it immediatly ran better and more economical. DPF was really hindering the engine's breathing.



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 03:59 PM

I registered etis and looked deeper into the dpf question, now i was told the euro 4 didnt have a dpf but according to etis on my reg plate it states dpf renewal every 75000 miles, so appears I was wrong and I need to go out and get some heat into it, now i am not having any problems at 109000 miles and checking the service history it was ford main dealer serviced till 77718 miles which is when I surmise the dealer changed it so diesel fusion I apologise for giving you wrong info on the focus and apologise to you minnis for doubting you.  :mellow:



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 04:08 PM

To find out if it has a DPF, go to http://www.etis.ford.com/home.do.

Click on the "vehicle" tab and type in the registration number, then look under the "emissions" in the blue box on the right.

Mine says "Stage IV + DPF Emissions".

 

Hope this helps :).

Mine says "Stage IV Emissions" 



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 04:49 PM

I registered etis and looked deeper into the dpf question, now i was told the euro 4 didnt have a dpf but according to etis on my reg plate it states dpf renewal every 75000 miles, so appears I was wrong and I need to go out and get some heat into it, now i am not having any problems at 109000 miles and checking the service history it was ford main dealer serviced till 77718 miles which is when I surmise the dealer changed it so diesel fusion I apologise for giving you wrong info on the focus and apologise to you minnis for doubting you.  :mellow:

Mine says "Stage IV Emissions" 

 

I know you can tell from looking under the car whether or not it has a DPF or not. Of course I have no idea what i'm looking for, but I'm sure next time your car's in for a service or something they'll be able to have a look and tell you :). Also, you can't always trust etis to the letter - it says mine's a saloon when it's a hatchback.



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 06:13 PM

With a 1.4TDCI Fusion it's easy, it has only 1 muffler at the end so if there's a thicker piece in the front pipe it's a DPF. Luckily it's a dumb one without sensors and easily removed ;)



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Posted 12 September 2013 - 06:56 PM

I know you can tell from looking under the car whether or not it has a DPF or not. Of course I have no idea what i'm looking for, but I'm sure next time your car's in for a service or something they'll be able to have a look and tell you :). Also, you can't always trust etis to the letter - it says mine's a saloon when it's a hatchback.

Dont trust anyone but me to service my cars, I know whats gone in and its done right. I haven't had it that long and was led to believe it didn't have one so never looked, looked tonight and it does its at front of engine as part of down-pipe, but no re-gen tank to worry about so will be fettled when it misbehaves  :P



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