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#1 bootsy

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 02:25 PM

Hi all, we have a Ford Fiesta Zetec Econetic 1.5 deisel car new march 31 2013, we have had a lot of problems with it the worst being that it wont rev, it will start and idle but wont rev, you can floor the pedal and it just stays on tick over, it has done this four times for about half a hour then it works again. Also once i was stoped at traffic lights and the revs kept on droping from about 800 to 300 it then went back to normal before the lights changed thank god. When we picked the car up new i was looking under the bonnet and found the crash sensor had not been fitted it was just coiled up with the bolt through the sensor but not bolted in, only mention this in case it may have something to do with the problems, another problem is we get a warning alarm some times when i start it but there is no light on the dash its not the seat belt alarm. The electric window stoped working for half a hour, one of the parking sensors goes off 90% of the time with nothing behind you and the drivers side wiper would shake when working. We took it in for the check and they fitted the crash sensor and a new wiper that sorted those two but said that the ecu only remebers up to fourty cycles so could not get any fault codes so i have to wait until it happens again then take it in straight away, the car has done 4000 miles and when runing ok seams to go ok, i drive it very easy and even run it in as stated in the manual but the fuel use is not as good as it should be, the dealer loaned us a C max 2.0 automatic and that was better on fuel than ours. Sorry for the long post, think we got a friday afternoon car, any one have any thoughts on this?



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Posted 29 September 2013 - 03:32 PM

Reject it!!

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 03:50 PM

I also forgot to say that sometimes when you turn the car off the fan goes full pelt and wont go off, you can switch the ignition off and lock the car but it still keeps runing, after its been runing at full pelt for about five mins it smells of burning rubber, if i start the car up it then goes normal but as soon as i switch it off again it goes to full pelt again. It usually stops if i switch the ignition on and off four our five times but some times it wont go off and i have to start the car up a few times so the fan has a bit of a rest.E5GDM  how do i reject it? we have had it for about six months.



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Posted 29 September 2013 - 04:36 PM

The burning smell is the car trying to force a DPF regeneration cycle, apart from the few small niggles it sounds to me like you have bought the wrong car, you should have bought a petrol car not diesel.

 

Take the car for a long run on the motorway (100 miles) and see if the performance improves then, I think the DPF is blocked.



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Posted 29 September 2013 - 08:15 PM

Yeah with 8k annual mileage you really should have got a petrol, really need to do 15k+ to justify diesel (with long runs, not town driving) otherwise your filter gets clogged up and tries to burn the soot off which is the symptoms you describe.



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Posted 29 September 2013 - 08:55 PM

We will be doing about 25k a year soon thats why we got a diesel, our old car was diesel (not a Ford) and we did not have any of these problems, my daughter has a Ford Fiesta 2010 model that is 1.4 litre diesel she does about 12k a year and she has not had any problems like this. Are you both saying that all the problems we are getting are because we have not done enough miles in it so far?, if that is the case Ford should warn people to not use a diesel if they are not going to do many miles because if they do it will play up.



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Posted 29 September 2013 - 09:05 PM

The 1.4 2010 diesel did not have this diesel particulate filter and presumably your old one didn't either (they've only brought them in the last couple of years)

Agreed salesmen need make this clearer to the customer and asses their needs properly.



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Posted 29 September 2013 - 09:10 PM

I don't know your driving habits so no offence meant, but the car should not be trying to perform a DPF regeneration when standing. You should take the car out for a good run at least once a week, if you intend to do 25K mileage in the future you should be OK providing you have some fast motorway miles.

 

It's not just Ford that have these issues all diesel car manufacturers see customers with blocked DPF's due to short runs in the city and you are correct in that the salesman should make it clear the effects of city driving on a modern diesel and whether the customer is making the right choice.



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Posted 29 September 2013 - 11:42 PM

The day after we picked up the car was the first time it did the no rev thing, i thought it was just one of those things, we have the car on Pcp finance with a limit of 12k miles a year but there was not any mention of thats not enough for a new desiel only that they cost more so it would be cheaper to get a petrol car, we new there was a chance that we would have to do more miles but were told it would not be a problem as long as we did not hand the car back and walk away from it.  I think i had better contact Ford and say our new car is not fit for purpose in light of what has been said here.



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Posted 30 September 2013 - 12:07 AM

I have googled this Dpf thing and it does look like you are all right, our car has a three year warranty would that cover if this Dpf thing went wrong?



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Posted 30 September 2013 - 08:37 AM

Hi, once a month is fine to force a regen, however some of the symptoms you describe suggest something other than anything to do with the dpf and it is unlikely that it is blocked as you would have a engine management light illumintate. The fan running on after stopping the car could be a regen, or it could be overheating. Check the coolant levels as my focus did this when it developed a leak. Stick with the dealership, you need them on your side, but be firm and insist that they find a solution, even if it means leaving the car with them for a few days...



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Posted 30 September 2013 - 09:14 AM

If the car is not fit for purpose, your entitled to swap the car, or get your money back. You would have to google it for the exact rules.
Although as the cars still under warranty, they should rectify the problem. Good luck.

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 11:23 AM

Hi all, thanks for the help, the car is not overheating as when the fan first went mad that was the first thing i looked at was the temp and it was normal. One thing that it does all the time is when you turn the car off you can hear a like whistle sound near the front grill, its not very loud but its there. Its a shame really because i really like the car even with all its faults, i know its one of the slowest cars but at my age we were after good economy and some thing that would last a good while. When i was young i worked in a garage and had a mark one three litre capri that had the special manifold with three twin choke webers on it, Janspeed exhaust ect and god was that fast, i also had a v12 jag but the capri was faster.



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Posted 30 September 2013 - 11:56 AM

Just phoned our dealer and our Fiesta does not have a Dpf.



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Posted 30 September 2013 - 04:45 PM

Just phoned our dealer and our Fiesta does not have a Dpf.

I would be very surprised if that was the case. 

 

This is a quote from the AA

 

The exhaust emissions standards for new cars have effectively required fitment of a DPF in the exhaust of diesel cars since 2009 when the 'Euro 5' standard came into force. In fact, many cars registered before 2009 will have had one fitted too in anticipation of the change in standards.



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