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Posted 07 October 2013 - 06:58 PM

Hi.

I have a funny problem with my power steering which I have never experienced with any other car.

Whenever I either start the car or when I'm sat waiting at traffic lights, when I am just about to move off and I slightly turn the wheel, the steering wheel feels like its a lead weight but a millisecond later, I hear what sounds like a pump activating (like a thump noise) then the wheel returns to normal "powered" steering.

Its starting to annoy me but if I have to live with it I will. There is no powersteering reservoir on show in the engine bay (2009 tdci 110) so I presume it is underneath the engine cover??

Any thoughts guys?

Mike.

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 07:08 PM

power steering reservoir is under the driver side wing behind the
wheel arch liner
that's why you don't see it

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 07:09 PM

As my previous reply in topic FAULT take out the o/s headlight you will see the power steering pump there check the connectors are clean .

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Posted 07 October 2013 - 07:42 PM

Oh great! Thanks guys. Appreciate your guidance.

Will have a good look tomorrow and report back.

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 01:34 PM

Please note that there are two electrical connectors. The power supply one is the one with the two big wires. There is another one, presumably for the sensor.

 

Also clean the top of the reservoir & filler cap and check the fluid level.

 

Also check the power steering (EHPAS) fuse in the engine bay fuse box. They can get corroded.

 

Unfortunately, the "worst case scenario" is that the PAS pump is on the way out. Evidently, they're prone to failure on the Focus.



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Posted 08 October 2013 - 05:43 PM

Please note that there are two electrical connectors. The power supply one is the one with the two big wires. There is another one, presumably for the sensor.
 
Also clean the top of the reservoir & filler cap and check the fluid level.
 
Also check the power steering (EHPAS) fuse in the engine bay fuse box. They can get corroded.
 
Unfortunately, the "worst case scenario" is that the PAS pump is on the way out. Evidently, they're prone to failure on the Focus.


Thanks for the valued info!

I'm going to have a look tomorrow on my dinner and check what you have suggested.

Its going into a trusted mechanic on thursday for a once over on a ramp as its got a months warranty left so any defects he discovers will give me ammo to take it to be corrected! :)

It certainly isnt normal for the PS to behave like this.

Will update tomorrow.....

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 10:32 AM

Have checked everything as above and all appeard ok.
I have rang the place I bought the car from and the guy said this.....

"Its a powersaving mode the car goes into when stationary, its quite common and its to save battery. The ecu shuts it down when not in use."

Now ive owned many cars and not one has done this.

I have 3 weeks warranty left on the car and something tells me he's trying to avoid paying out for a new pump as ive heard they are expensive!

What do you guys think??

Is he trying to pull the wool over my eyes so I pass the 3 month mark and therefore be out of warranty??

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 10:47 AM

I'd say if that was the case it would do it every time you switched the car off and to all of us on here that do not experience this problem I,ve not heard of it before for one I,d say he,s tryin a fast one

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 11:34 AM

Yeah, I trust the guy, he's the most clued up mechanic/business owner ive ever come across but I think, from a business point of view, he's not wanting to open his wallet which is understandable BUT, he gave me a car with warranty so its tough.

I may make up a situation where the steering has alledgedly failed whilst driving in order to get his attengion on the matter (child in the back etc etc)....

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Posted 14 October 2013 - 03:26 PM

Ask him to provide his feedback in writing, and advise in advance that you will be seeking a second opinion. If there are any faults diagnosed with the vehicle that you will be returning it to him and expect it to be honored under warranty as per the Sale of Goods act.



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Posted 14 October 2013 - 07:42 PM

Thanks jeebo!

Will give him a call tomorrow and see where we go from there. It clearly isn't functioning correctly tho.

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 12:48 PM

Steering cannot go to sleep! my Cee'd had functionality that the faster I drove, the less responsive it went, but this was just firming up the response so that it was a gradual change from comfort to sport mode, but nothing as severe as you describe. I have never known a ford have a power saving mode that would deliberately make steering the car at slow speeds difficult, when your driving a heavy car you need more, not less help!

 

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 01:29 PM

Been to busy at work to ring them yet jeebo but i will.
Ive noticed a change in the handling at speed, becomes much firmer which im sure is a design feature.

Just as a side note and possibly unrelated but ive noticed my steering wheel is not centre at all. Its turned slightly to the left so if i properly straighten the wheel, the car turns slightly. Is this anything to bring up or bother having sorted??

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Posted 15 October 2013 - 03:20 PM

it could be either alignment, tracking or camber. I had KwikFit did all the tracking for me when I got new tyres, cost about 60 odd quid all in for the wheels to be put back to perfect!



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Posted 15 October 2013 - 03:26 PM

Thanks jeebo. Thats next on the list after the DPF removal.... LOL

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