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#1 dougy giro

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 02:36 PM

Hi All

 

Its my first post here so go gently with me!

 

My wifes Focus clapped out last week and RAC squirted that easy start stuff and it started again. I had an Auto Electrician out today and the codes were confirmed as P1564, 1664, 1665,0335 and 0149, so confirms its the Fuel Pump I believe.

 

The car is a good runner on 106K, I paid £1100 for it 18 months ago so it has served its purpose well so far.

 

Would you recommend that I try the cheap (ish) option of just sending the ECU away to one of the many companies who refurb and send it back in a couple of days, or can you recommend somewhere to send the whole fuel pump / ecu combo to?

 

I can probably get the ECU off myself (Auto electrician said make sure you cut all of the black wires at different lengths), but the pump would be a garage job ( I live in the North East).

 

If I go for the full pump I assume I may as well have the timing belt done at the same time too. What are your experiences?



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Posted 05 November 2013 - 03:02 PM

I wouldn't panic just yet! get the fuel filter changed first its about £40 or less from eurocarparts. Then let us know if the car starts (after its been primed properly). Also get the error codes cleared out and see what new codes come up!



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Posted 05 November 2013 - 03:16 PM

I wouldn't panic just yet! get the fuel filter changed first its about £40 or less from eurocarparts. Then let us know if the car starts (after its been primed properly). Also get the error codes cleared out and see what new codes come up!

 

Like this one:

http://www.ebay.co.u...25#ht_267wt_721



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Posted 05 November 2013 - 03:53 PM

Seems about right, but I cannot say 110% but at that price, if you buy it and its not right, then at least you wont have forked out a massive loss.

 

Have you got a decent indie garage? or have you called a mobile mechanic?



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Posted 05 November 2013 - 04:56 PM

Seems about right, but I cannot say 110% but at that price, if you buy it and its not right, then at least you wont have forked out a massive loss.

 

Have you got a decent indie garage? or have you called a mobile mechanic?

Yes - mate owns an Indie Garage, mobile bloke was out today to check the codes. How easy is it to prime the fuel filter? It has stood for a week if that makes any difference



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Posted 08 November 2013 - 09:19 AM

When you replace the filter, you would need to prime it with a bulb. The best advice is to fill the filter with fuel first, fit it and then use the bulb to prime it.

 

Its a case that some people have struggled for hours to start the car. Others have primed it and started within 15 minutes.



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Posted 11 November 2013 - 11:06 AM

How easy is it to remove the ECU from the car without removing the fuel pump? I can see 2 of the wires that you cut but the other 2 are hidden out of the way. I assume it will be a ball ache crimping / soldering back in place whilst still fitted.

 

Fuel filter didnt make any difference.



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Posted 11 November 2013 - 12:00 PM

Sorry, not sire why you want to cut wires to the ECU?



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Posted 11 November 2013 - 12:08 PM

Hi

 

To send the ECU for repair which is cheaper that swapping pump and unit out at somewhere like this: http://www.ecutestin...mp_repairs.html

 



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Posted 11 November 2013 - 12:39 PM

I have to be honest, I dont see it being an ECU issue, unless you have evidence to the contrary.

 

Normally if the ECU goes, the car goes full stop. Nothing happens, or allsorts of screwey lights come flashing on with warnings and errors and fire alarms.

 

Are you still getting the same error codes?



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Posted 11 November 2013 - 01:09 PM

Hi

 

I haven't had the codes rechecked since the auto electrician came out and tested initially.

 

I am going to pass it over to my mate who owns an independent garage. One of his mechanics originally suggested not bothering fixing it at all though!



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Posted 11 November 2013 - 01:35 PM

Not really an ideal answer when you have an unusable car.

 

Unless you bought it from a dealer within the last 6 months, in which case unless it was sold as seen and signed to that effect, then you really want to get it fixed!

 

So the car is still struggling to start, then you are looking at either fuel, breathing or firing issues.

 

Given its a diesel it could be either glow plugs, air filter or fuel filter. Given the last has been changed, then you are looking at one of the other two, or perhaps a fuel issue still (maybe theres a crack or damage somewhere else along the fuelling system?

 

When the car does start, does it feel "knocky"? if so this could indicate the glow plug isnt heating the cylinder efficiently and may be new glow plugs...

 

Have you got a code reader? if not look at my signature at the "got an error on your car" thread that will guide you on how to buy one so you can monitor problems such as these.



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Posted 11 November 2013 - 02:36 PM

Thanks for all of your suggestions. I am biting the bullet and my mate is picking it up on Wednesday to have a look. I will set myself a budget and if the repair cost exceeds this I will sell the car for spares or repair.

 

I can pick one up for around £600 so no point spending too much on it.



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Posted 11 November 2013 - 02:49 PM

Good Luck Alan, let us know how it goes!



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Posted 13 November 2013 - 03:28 PM

Hi - local indipendant who was recommended by a few people has found a pump on a working car that is breaking, he will swap it out and do coding for £240, I have asked him to do oil/ filter and new belt fitted to fuel pump for an extra £55, so £295 all in. He said its a cracking engine so worth keeping. This includes towing the car to his garage also.

 

Thats assuming it is the fuel pump of course!!!!!!!!

 



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