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#31 wase16ll

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 11:52 AM

 

Mate, no offence, but last time I checked, I saw that this is a Ford Forum, its kind of expected.  :rolleyes:

 

It's just a little bit of harmless ranting/banter, if we didn't have threads like these (that stir the emotions a little), then this would be one boring forum to be on, kinda like those Prius-loving/Volvo owner boards. (Where the most interesting thread is something along the lines of "What color is your car")

lol

im not that sensitive mate,

but consistent bitching is a strong sign of jealousy ;) 

i visit a number of car forums, best source of little quirks that are common but tricky to diagnose, can save hours of labour...this website is the only one i see getting obsessed about different makes/models and their drivers...

think your all forgetting something....ford produces the KA



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 11:55 AM

think your all forgetting something....ford produces the KA


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Posted 10 November 2013 - 12:04 PM

And the fiesta mk5

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 12:15 PM

lol

im not that sensitive mate,

but consistent bitching is a strong sign of jealousy ;)

i visit a number of car forums, best source of little quirks that are common but tricky to diagnose, can save hours of labour...this website is the only one i see getting obsessed about different makes/models and their drivers...

think your all forgetting something....ford produces the KA

 

I hang around a couple of other car forums, and this isn't the only one (nor only Ford one) which has members bagging competitors/other makes.

 

You could argue that FOC are a whiny bunch, but the same could be said about lots of other car makes & forums too, its not exclusive to Ford. And though not ALL bashing/bagging is a result of having a superior product, a lot of it is. (And yes, I hate the KA.)



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 12:50 PM

We don't dig at other makes.
Just vaux##ll cos they're crap.

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 01:25 PM

I used to have a Vectra.  I've owned some cruddy cars in my time but that thing was by far the worst.  Nothing major went wrong, but lots of little things did that were costing me between £50-£100 a time to put right.  The worst one was the engine cutting out when you pressed the clutch on approach to a roundabout.  When this happened, the brakes lost efficiency, and the power steering didn't work - you kind of need both when approaching a roundabout.  Stormed back to the garage with it (only had it a few days) and went ape***t with them, having ended up careering over a roundabout, unable to stop and barely able to steer.

 

While they were fixing that, they gave me a "courtesy car" - another !Removed! Vauxhall!  An Astra, this time.  Coming home from a family visit at 1:30 in the morning, we got a flat tyre.  Not their fault, obviously.  But upon retrieving the stuff from the boot to change the wheel, I discovered that the wheelbrace (the hexagonal bit inside it), was actually round.  And I hadn't a hope in hell of getting the wheel off with it.  I slammed the boot lid down in a temper, and the plastic trim fell off.  So I went and slammed the door instead and the wing mirror came off.  So I figured I best stop slamming stuff cos I didn't know what would fall off next.  I rang the breakdown number of the back of the tax disc holder - the breakdown cover had expired.  I asked them to come anyway as I was all out of other options, and got charged £72 for a man to come and change the wheel for me.

 

I went bananas yet again with the garage for A) Putting me in that situation by not checking everything was serviceable, and B) refusing to refund me the £72 on the basis that "I didn't NEED to do it".  Quite what they expected me to do instead, at 2 in the morning, I don't know.  I finally got all my money back after refusing to leave the building until they did.  Don't think I kept the car more than six months, was glad to see the back of it.



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 03:55 PM

anyone that thinks slamming doors etc in temper wont cause damage to any car out there is in dreamworld, which is kind of my point...

all cars are more or less the same with a few exceptions, when it comes to generalising, some are unbelievably excellent in reliability, low maintenence etc such as hondas, some are unbelievably poor such as fiats,

all other makes/models have their quirks

 

ford diesel fuel systems...crap once they have clocked a bit of mileage and seriously expensive to sort properly

vauxhall egr valves...crap and bl**dy annoying especially since euro 4

renault electrical systems...just crap

bmw..some of their later engines dont stand test of time

vw..auto and manual boxes...junk

 

list goes on and on...technology increases risk of faults similar to sudden loss of brakes/steering throughout the makes...state of the art electronics fitted in very harsh enviorenments (well that isnt spelt right) dont mix....bit like plastic trims etc, and violence really ;)

 

each to their own and all that, just find it odd slagging off a rival maker on a forum full to the brim of moans/problems/bad service/bad design etc etc of a supposedly superior make/company  :)



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 03:59 PM

anyone that thinks slamming doors etc in temper wont cause damage to any car out there is in dreamworld, which is kind of my point...
all cars are more or less the same with a few exceptions, when it comes to generalising, some are unbelievably excellent in reliability, low maintenence etc such as hondas, some are unbelievably poor such as fiats,
all other makes/models have their quirks
 
ford diesel fuel systems...crap once they have clocked a bit of mileage and seriously expensive to sort properly
vauxhall egr valves...crap and bl**dy annoying especially since euro 4
renault electrical systems...just crap
bmw..some of their later engines dont stand test of time
vw..auto and manual boxes...junk
 
list goes on and on...technology increases risk of faults similar to sudden loss of brakes/steering throughout the makes...state of the art electronics fitted in very harsh enviorenments (well that isnt spelt right) dont mix....bit like plastic trims etc, and violence really ;)
 
each to their own and all that, just find it odd slagging off a rival maker on a forum full to the brim of moans/problems/bad service/bad design etc etc of a supposedly superior make/company  :)

Fair point mate,
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I'm on Toyota forums and the moan about Honda and treat civic drivers like ford forum does corsa

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Posted 10 November 2013 - 04:06 PM

toyota is another top quality make in relability etc, but they are nowhere near as good as they used to be....as for the yaris, thats well up there with the KA and puntos and their like



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 04:56 PM

as for the yaris, thats well up there with the KA and puntos and their like

 

In terms of mundane-ness (if that is a word), possibly. Reliability - no. I'd take the Yaris any day though, over the other two.



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 05:11 PM

work on a few of them, cheap and nasty...to be fair, dont break down very often, but build quality compared to other toyotas is dire, plus plenty of regular rough running issues



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Posted 10 November 2013 - 05:21 PM

I like Vauxhalls lm sorry to say lol had 3, first car was a 1.3 astra lol loved it, then was a vectra1.8 loved that more, the I had a 2.5 v gsi and was tuned and was putting just over 230 hp was a monster I miss that car wud love one again, my mum and dad have had fords alfas and Vauxhalls and there last 2 have been astra vxr and now a corsa vxr and they say they wouldn't have anything else, I'd always have vauxhall but now I'm a Ford fan as well but that's just me lol

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 09:31 AM

haha, Tony I think the reason is that we need to have a rant about vauxhall, it makes us feel better about our own issues :D lol.

 

I kind of laugh though, My battery went kaput not long ago, went to get it changed, and after having a long old fight and moan at eurocarparts, they gave me a new one.

 

Long story short, the only reason I felt better was because after I fixed my car up, I found a corsa that had died after he bought a replacement exhaust. It was a sign :P I just had to laugh as I felt better that a corsa had died any other car, perhaps it wouldnt have been as funny, its just the irony that another old corsa had gone kaput.

 

To be honest, I have my gripes with other manufacturers, but particularly for me a corsa with a pratt at the wheel is the one thing that ticks me over, but then I am sure they will say the same about a Fez with a pratt at the wheel...

 

Anyways, I think its all in the name of banter, but perhaps in the name of fairness, we should start up other bashing threads :P all in favour of a daewoo bashing thread...?



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Posted 11 November 2013 - 09:46 AM

Seat ?

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 10:13 AM

CITROEN!!!  - The wore I want to use for them wont get past the filter :P Lets just spell it Sitroen and add an extra letter somewhere... I wonder what that could possibly be?



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