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Best Answer mickthetree, 12 December 2013 - 04:17 PM

Well £500 lighter I shall be picking the car up from Ford on my way home. New GEM.  I had been expecting a lot more to be honest but at Christmas time it is the last thing I need.

 

All for a small component on a circuit board  :(

 

Boo you Ford.

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#1 mickthetree

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Posted 02 December 2013 - 12:18 PM

Hi all Happened across the forum whilst searching for a resolution to my issue. I have a 2007 1.6 TDCI c-max The wipers just stopped working recently. They were fine when I parked the car up, went to drive the next day and they were not working. I have changed the fuse and even bought a secondhand motor and linkage off ebay (guy said it definitely works). Fitted that and still nothing. When I press the wiper stalk on the steering column I can hear the relay working, but my knowledge if relays is poor. Anyone got any more suggestions? Thanks in advance for any help you can give.

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Posted 02 December 2013 - 03:28 PM

Do you have indicators, washers or flashing lights control?

 

If you activate the rear wiper does this work?

 

Is it the same click you get when activating the front?

 

It sounds to me like your relay may have become loose. Disconnect the battery, disconnect all wire harnesses from the passenger side footwell and then reconnect each and every one in turn ensuring its fully engaged. If this works and you still hear a click, it sounds like the wiring from the box to the motor may be damaged, but my gut is yelling its just a loose connection.



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Posted 02 December 2013 - 10:21 PM

Thanks so much for the answer Jeebo

 

Now you mention it I did have to replace another fuse a month or so ago and maybe I could have knocked something.  I hadn't even considered that.

 

I'll have a look through everything over the next couple of days.  Its such an awkward space to get into down there. I had myself upside down with my legs in the air last time!!!

 

I'll come back and let you know.

 

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Posted 02 December 2013 - 11:01 PM

Hi Paul, no need for odd positioning :P

 

I find that if you just unscrew then drop the fuseboard, then you can just work on them all and work from kneeling out the side of the car. It would only take a few minutes, but make sure you disconnect the battery first. You can throw all sorts of error messages!



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 12:29 PM

Hi there

 

I got some time today to look at this.  I disconnected the battery and went through all of the connections in the fuse box in the passenger footwell hoping to find a loose connection, but nothing. Everything seems solid.

 

There is a small set of wires that run through the bracket that holds the fuseboard. Looks like these have been rubbing against the fuseboard as the covering insulating tape has worn through, but the wires beneath seem intact.



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Posted 05 December 2013 - 12:35 PM

I cant actually see the relays in the fuseboard in the footwell. Are they held inside the board?  The rear wiper relay makes exactly the same sound as the front one, but the front one still refuses to budge.

 

I guess the next step would be to test the wires but I dont have a clue which ones run the lighting. Would a haynes manual tell me this?

 

Alternatively a specialist electircal mechanic might be in order!



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Posted 06 December 2013 - 01:10 AM

I think wiper relay is hardwired into gem module (fuse box passenger footwell)if u can't find relay and u know someone with similar car borrow there gem an just test with ignition on possible new fusebox worst case scenario try this after u fully check rest circuit first

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 01:12 AM

If ur headlights ain't workin there fuse under bonnet for wipers an lights

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 01:48 AM

I'm pretty sure that the wiper relays are on the underside of the board.
You may have a plastic mesh or material cover over the bottom hiding and protecting relays.
I know the board can be prone to loose modules if someone inadvertedly kicks it.also I'm pretty sure the board is identical to the board in a MK2 Focus.

If the relays aren't under the footwell board then check the board in the engine bay.

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 01:59 AM

Wiper relay wiring diagram.jpg



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Posted 06 December 2013 - 08:09 AM

Cheers guys, really helpful having your input.

 

I'll try to ping the back off the GEM this weekend. It seemed like a sealed unit so I didn't look much further.

 

It certainly sounds like the relay is in the footwell when I press the stick.

 

I had presumed that if the relay is clicking then it must be ok, but I'm up for trying anything!!



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Posted 06 December 2013 - 08:31 AM

The relay clicking means the low voltage/ampage switching circuit is working but the higher voltage/ampage secondary circuit activated by the switching relay may not be.

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 08:52 AM

One piece of advise for u if u like messing round with ur car u need a multimeter never just buy a part an hope that's problem these things can be checked so easy rule number 1 in diagnostics u always proof out ur wiring before condemning a part most electrical problems could be something as simple as a bad connection

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 09:09 AM

Cheers Mick. My dad used to be an electrician and has one of those. He is coming over this weekend to see if we can get to the bottom of it.

 

He might know, but is there a way to test if the wiper motor is fine with a multimeter? It has four prongs.



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Posted 06 December 2013 - 11:23 AM

First think first u need to check circuit see if u gettin a power an a ground to the motor usually if u have good voltage an earth motor is problem but u can check motor also check internal resistance u have 2 motors so u can take reading an compare not sure exact pins off top my head but I sure would get them on google

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