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[vinnyvangough]

I agree, sidelights dont make a difference day or night. You're right about the front fog lights, its actually debateable imo if they ever really need to be on as alot of cars aren't even fitted with them! I think the highway code says visability has to be less than 100m to have them on, and this is very very rare. This problem is getting worse and more and more people are driving around with all their lights on all the time. The police need a zero tolerance on this, even if only for a couple of months, the word would soon get around...

Agree with sidelights, but visibility under 100m where i am is common place. I am around 15 miles from the coast and the fog we get sometimes is crazy. I've seen it many times where you cant see more than 5m in front of you and if you meet a car coming in the opposite direction without fog lights on, you can only see them when they are around 20m in front of you.
Admitedly driving with fogs on in the day when they are not needed are a royal pain in the gentleman's seating area.

[Jonny87]

Agree with sidelights, but visibility under 100m where i am is common place. I am around 15 miles from the coast and the fog we get sometimes is crazy. I've seen it many times where you cant see more than 5m in front of you and if you meet a car coming in the opposite direction without fog lights on, you can only see them when they are around 20m in front of you.
Admitedly driving with fogs on in the day when they are not needed are a royal pain in the gentleman's seating area.

Glad you agree

[fiesta_lad]

I agree, sidelights dont make a difference day or night. You're right about the front fog lights, its actually debateable imo if they ever really need to be on as alot of cars aren't even fitted with them! I think the highway code says visability has to be less than 100m to have them on, and this is very very rare. This problem is getting worse and more and more people are driving around with all their lights on all the time. The police need a zero tolerance on this, even if only for a couple of months, the word would soon get around...

i agree people who drive with there fog lights on are a pain in the !Removed! and the police should crack down not only issue fines but points has well o and another thing people who drive around with full beam on that gets me going no need not so ever

[GASSED]

I agree, sidelights dont make a difference day or night. You're right about the front fog lights, its actually debateable imo if they ever really need to be on as alot of cars aren't even fitted with them! I think the highway code says visability has to be less than 100m to have them on, and this is very very rare. This problem is getting worse and more and more people are driving around with all their lights on all the time. The police need a zero tolerance on this, even if only for a couple of months, the word would soon get around...

NOT SURE ABOUT WHERE YOU LIVE PEOPLE ,BUT HERE IN STAFFORDSHIRE I HAVE NOTICED THE LAST 12 MONTHS THAT ALL BUSES HAVE HEADLIGHTS ON IN THE DAY NOT SURE IF THIS IS A REQUIREMENT FOR THEM NOW ,IF YOU KNOW TELL US GUYS

[Shedchief]

I think that using your front fogs is only sensible if it helps the driver to see better in certain conditions.

Rear fogs, obviously, are there to guard your bum from those idiots who drive too quickly in the poor conditions for them to stop in time if you have to slow/stop for any reason. People who turn them on and then forget about them when conditions improve can and cause untold harm by constantly blinding those behind them. Potentially nasty, if only because their brightness can conceal brake lights from said blinded drivers! I wish drivers would THINK, dammit!

In contrast (bad pun, sorry ), using normal dipped headlights in daylight is as much to draw your attention to other road users as it is to help you to see. Whether or not this is proved scientifically to help is immaterial now and not worth arguing about, surely. The fact is that if most drivers do this, then those who do not switch on will disappear in the gloom and simply won't be seen so readily. All or nothing, it seems to me!

As a biker, I am pleased that nearly all bikes now have to have their lights on permanently, removing rider preference from the equation. It doesn't matter whether or not we agree to this. The fact is that anybody who can claim to see the one 'lights off' bike in a line of well-lit traffic without really looking for him - and sadly most car drivers do not really look for bikers - is fibbing!

And yes, I agree with those who say that driving with low-level front fogs on when conditions don't demand it is irritating, unnecessarily blinding and soooooo uncool!

Hurrumph!

[JohnP]

people who drive with front fogs on really wind me up, esp if its during the day. a few people i know have taken to just flashing at them, maybe they'll realise but i doubt it. also if someone comes flying up behind you with either fogs or fully beam on a quick flash of the back fogs can make em back off.
i did hear of a lad who wired up his back fogs to flash intermitantly, when he put those on people backed right off his car!

[Jonny87]

people who drive with front fogs on really wind me up, esp if its during the day. a few people i know have taken to just flashing at them, maybe they'll realise but i doubt it. also if someone comes flying up behind you with either fogs or fully beam on a quick flash of the back fogs can make em back off.
i did hear of a lad who wired up his back fogs to flash intermitantly, when he put those on people backed right off his car!

Maybe we should be a bit kinder to these people... possibly they have some sort of mental retardation that causes them to think its foggy, if this is the case then maybe they also crap themselves while driving...

[Grilled]

At night I light to have my fogs on down country lanes just to see either side of the road a bit better. In all honestly I leave them on without noticing seeing as the button for them is usually hidden from my view by the steering wheel and there's not notification on the dash. The day I got my xr2i i got pulled for foglights on in the day, in that case I didn't even notice any of my lights were on!

[fiesta_lad]

At night I light to have my fogs on down country lanes just to see either side of the road a bit better. In all honestly I leave them on without noticing seeing as the button for them is usually hidden from my view by the steering wheel and there's not notification on the dash. The day I got my xr2i i got pulled for foglights on in the day, in that case I didn't even notice any of my lights were on!

i can understand if your driveing down a dark country lane and you put them on to see better but all these chavs that drive round with them on all the time are just plane simple nob heads it dont look good just looks like your bind and cant see were you are going they should make a feature on all cars with front fog lights they only come on when its foggy.

[sam1986uk]

I hate it when people put fogs on when they don't need it - It can blind people!

[Nug878]

I don't mind it when people go around with their side lights on, because that's just like the Volvo's. But when they have their dipped's on, that annoys me a bit.
But, what really annoys me is when people have their fogs on. There's a few people at college, first thing they do before they set off in their car is turn their side lights and fog lights on.

[TheFiesta]

Same for me, it doesnt matter if the side lights are on, but the fog lights in a clear day are really annoying (not to say dangerous...).

[rockernao]

^ditto.... I don't care about whether people use their sidelights, but foglights on during the day when it's sunny as is against the law... what annoys me even more, and this happened over the weekend, is when it IS foggy and people DON'T use their fog lights.... I found it very hard to make cars out driving on the M5/M6 on Saturday! Whether conditions were terrible and you needed to use fogs.... Seen more on during sunny days than foggy days (which people have said, is rare as it is in most parts)

[Helena]

The answer to you question is.....



If you look at all the cars with their lights on, You will notice they are all Volvos... they have they're lights on all the time as a saftey feature


Next time your driving down the motorway at daytime just have a little look at the opposite side and you will find that all the cars you see with their headlights on are Volvos.

[JohnP]

The answer to you question is.....



If you look at all the cars with their lights on, You will notice they are all Volvos... they have they're lights on all the time as a saftey feature


Next time your driving down the motorway at daytime just have a little look at the opposite side and you will find that all the cars you see with their headlights on are Volvos.

nah thats not true, most new audi's have daytime running lights and loads of boy racers run sides and fogs. a lot of drivers of bigger cars round my way run around with side lights on, really don't see the point at mid day in the bright sunshine!