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#16 yunii

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Posted 03 January 2014 - 07:42 PM

Have a check on site called
www.camskill.co.UK tyres
I highly recommend them
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Posted 04 January 2014 - 10:21 AM

I spoke to my dealer yesterday, and they said if you put normal tyres on the car will come up with a message saying have you got winter tyres on and if u click yes it will disable the system.


You're kidding, right?

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Posted 04 January 2014 - 11:56 AM

Thats what the engineer said..

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Posted 04 January 2014 - 02:27 PM

So there doesn't seem to be a definitive answer as to how the ECU will handle normal rubber valves being used as opposed to the TPMS ones

I can't really believe the engineers explanation to be honest

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Posted 04 January 2014 - 05:00 PM

Thats what the engineer said..

I seriously think you ought to consider getting your tyres changed elsewhere.

If you are considering changing to non runflats, you wouldn't be the first, as many have seeked more economical tyres to suit their budget - without problem.

I wouldn't trust an 'engineer' who'd boldly declare that the car can tell the difference between runflats or otherwise.
Your TPMS system should function normally.

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Posted 04 January 2014 - 05:11 PM

So there doesn't seem to be a definitive answer as to how the ECU will handle normal rubber valves being used as opposed to the TPMS ones I can't really believe the engineers explanation to be honest


If TPMS valves are replaced with standard valves, the system will simply come up with a message 'Tyre Pressures not detected'. If the alert comes up a couple of times, and is ignored, the alert is then stored in 'Messages', so shouldn't bother you further.
Alternatively, the TPMS system can also be disabled using ELMConfig.

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Posted 04 January 2014 - 05:45 PM

I seriously think you ought to consider getting your tyres changed elsewhere.

If you are considering changing to non runflats, you wouldn't be the first, as many have seeked more economical tyres to suit their budget - without problem.

I wouldn't trust an 'engineer' who'd boldly declare that the car can tell the difference between runflats or otherwise.
Your TPMS system should function normally.

This wasent from the garage im getting them changed at, its what they said at my local ford dealer when I asked them. I'm getting a local garage to fit them through black cirlce.com



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Posted 04 January 2014 - 05:46 PM

If TPMS valves are replaced with standard valves, the system will simply come up with a message 'Tyre Pressures not detected'. If the alert comes up a couple of times, and is ignored, the alert is then stored in 'Messages', so shouldn't bother you further.
Alternatively, the TPMS system can also be disabled using ELMConfig.

Do they have have to replace the valves ? Ive heard of some people still using them on non runflat tyres? Its just they seem quite expensive to get and I wondered if it's something that can be retained?



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Posted 04 January 2014 - 06:06 PM

Yes, you should be able to use the TPMS valves, but it is recommended to have key components in the valves replaced with service kits with every tyre change - given the rather notorious reputation of corrosion in these valves (even the Mk 2 version, I hear).

Your call.

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Posted 04 January 2014 - 07:35 PM

Hmm I'll have to give the garage a call on Monday and see what they normally do. I'm guessing they will just replace the valves, but then I don't know what will happen to the tpms ones... And if that happens will I end up spending a lot of money on getting new ones when my first mot is due. 



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Posted 04 January 2014 - 08:14 PM

I'd insist on retaining the TPMS valves assuming they are still in good condition, as they are expensive.
Standard valves are changed in the normal course of tyre change - but these aren't off-the-shelf inexpensive ones - which is why there are OEM valve service/repair kits to renew the TPMS valves. These valves come with non user replaceable sealed batteries that last 3 to 4 years, even up to 5 from what I've heard.

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Posted 04 January 2014 - 08:23 PM

Yeah I think your right, I'll ask him to keep them and if they say they won't ill cancel the order.

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Posted 04 January 2014 - 09:21 PM

If TPMS valves are replaced with standard valves, the system will simply come up with a message 'Tyre Pressures not detected'. If the alert comes up a couple of times, and is ignored, the alert is then stored in 'Messages', so shouldn't bother you further.
Alternatively, the TPMS system can also be disabled using ELMConfig.

Thank you for that. 

I have it booked in on monday at  the dealers in the hope that there will be no issues with the TPMS valves

 

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 04:43 PM

When we bought our s max 2years ago the garage fitted accelera alpha tyres to get it through the MOT. I seriously urge anyone not to fit these tyres to the front of the s max. In the dry they are fine but are lethal on wet roads. It will seriously comprise the cars handling. I changed them to michelin and the difference was immediately noticeable.
Budget tyres may be cheaper and the car my only be used around town but I speak from experience on this. You will regret it.

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 05:11 PM

Thanks for the info. Just an update got Kumho Ecsta Le Sport KU39 fitted. The garage kept the tpms vales and it still works great without the runflats. 

 

Nice tyres and not to bad a price from black circles.



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