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#1 HannaHexagon

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Posted 05 January 2014 - 01:29 AM

I have a 2005 Mk 1 focus hatchback with just 58k on the clock.  It's been an absolute dream... until today.

 

The Engine light and a light with an exclamation mark (warning light?) came on, and the temperature gauge went straight into the red. The car then acted as if it was about to stall, jerking and making weird noises. I had to leave it in a local car park as it's completely unmovable and I don't have breakdown cover :'(

 

What do you guys reckon is wrong with it? There is plenty of water in the tank and there doesn't seem to be any leaks. (I check the car quite regularly) To my knowledge, the oil in the car is still black.

 

I heard that these focus' need the water pump changed at the same time as the cambelt, is this true? Is it the water pump that's gone?

 

Thanks in advance guys and gals.

 



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Posted 05 January 2014 - 05:59 AM

How long had you been driving?

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Posted 05 January 2014 - 01:34 PM

How long had you been driving?

 

Over two years. I promise I wasn't hammering it! :P



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Posted 05 January 2014 - 02:18 PM

U would need read fault codes but if not loosing water pump thermostat an coolant temp sensor possible fan aswell need be checked

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Posted 05 January 2014 - 02:40 PM

U would need read fault codes but if not loosing water pump thermostat an coolant temp sensor possible fan aswell need be checked

 

The fan is working fine, I can hear it's usual buzzing when the engine is on.

 

I was sort of thinking it might be something to do with the radiator... My old car had major issues and the radiator was leaking coolant. Unfortunately, I didn't know until the head gasket blew and everything else soon followed! Hopefully this won't happen again :( Expensive job.

Thanks! It makes sense. I haven't been able to get hold of a garage or mechanic that's available today as it's Sunday :/ I'll have to wait until tomorrow.



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Posted 05 January 2014 - 03:08 PM

When did u have the head gasket done if u let car heat up but not overheat check all coolant pipes hot also check oil cap an dipstick for a milky substance that be water mixing wit oil

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Posted 05 January 2014 - 03:09 PM

Over two years. I promise I wasn't hammering it!
I *think* he meant how long had you been driving on that particular journey. ;)

 

There is plenty of water in the tank and there doesn't seem to be any leaks.
Water?  Or coolant?  I'd check that with a coolant hydrometer - if there's only water in it, you're going to have much bigger problems in the coming weeks when the weather goes sub-zero.

 

To my knowledge, the oil in the car is still black.
Nothing to do with the problem but if the oil is black, it likely wants changing - fresh engine oil is almost clear.  Without looking I think it's every 6k in the service schedule.

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Posted 05 January 2014 - 03:19 PM

When did u have the head gasket done if u let car heat up but not overheat check all coolant pipes hot also check oil cap an dipstick for a milky substance that be water mixing wit oil

Oh, that was my old car. Not this one! 

 

The oil is fine in it, still black. I checked that last night too!



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Posted 05 January 2014 - 03:20 PM

The oil is fine in it, still black
Can I ask, what colour are you expecting the oil to go when it *isn't* OK?

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Posted 05 January 2014 - 03:22 PM

I *think* he meant how long had you been driving on that particular journey. ;)

 

 

 

Water?  Or coolant?  I'd check that with a coolant hydrometer - if there's only water in it, you're going to have much bigger problems in the coming weeks when the weather goes sub-zero.

 

 

 

Nothing to do with the problem but if the oil is black, it likely wants changing - fresh engine oil is almost clear.  Without looking I think it's every 6k in the service schedule.

 

Oh, right! Silly me. Only a few minuets, literally a mile.

 

I haven't checked the coolant, that's a good point. 

 

I'll have to moider the mechanic tomorrow about the oil! Thanks :)



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Posted 05 January 2014 - 03:23 PM

Can I ask, what colour are you expecting the oil to go when it *isn't* OK?

 

I was told by a ford mechanic months ago that it goes either milky when it mixes with water or brown when it's used. Is this not correct?



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Posted 05 January 2014 - 03:42 PM

I've had cars for nearly 20 years (some I didn't maintain at all, because they were rusty old runabouts and I didn't care as long they worked), and I have never seen brown oil, even after 20k without changing it.

 

For the oil to be brown, something must've got into it, which would probably mean you've got problems further up the engine - maybe this is what the Ford spanner-monkey meant?  Why wait for it to get that bad??

 

Just change it as per the manual recommendations.  Every 6k or 6 months is a good guide - more often if you do lots of short runs.

 

Oh, and just to clarify - black oil doesn't necessarily mean it needs changing right away.  Most garages don't leave it to drain properly, so the new stuff gets mixed in with the residual old stuff, which can make it look murky almost straight away (not black, but it won't look 'clean').  I've even known some speed up the job by siphoning the old oil out through the dipstick tube with a vacuum pump which for me, is incredibly bad practice as it will leave a load of filth settled in the bottom of the sump.  As I said, stick to the service schedule (or thereabouts), and change the oil straight away if it gets thick and sludgy (hold the dipstick up and see if the oil drips off the end within a few seconds).



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Posted 05 January 2014 - 03:50 PM

I've had cars for nearly 20 years (some I didn't maintain at all, because they were rusty old runabouts and I didn't care as long they worked), and I have never seen brown oil, even after 20k without changing it.

 

For the oil to be brown, something must've got into it, which would probably mean you've got problems further up the engine - maybe this is what the Ford spanner-monkey meant?  Why wait for it to get that bad??

 

Just change it as per the manual recommendations.  Every 6k or 6 months is a good guide - more often if you do lots of short runs.

 

I was going to get it serviced next weekend actually, as it had been just over 6k since the last one. I had it booked in weeks ago. Thanks though.



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Posted 05 January 2014 - 03:53 PM

The light with the exclamation mark - I had a Mk1 Focus for eight years up til 2 years ago and don't recall any such light, other than the brake fluid/handbrake warning light.  Are you sure it's not that?



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Posted 05 January 2014 - 03:57 PM

There is a a powertrain light on fords yellow light on left side of cluster u will need fault codes checked

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