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#1 Hassen

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Posted 03 February 2014 - 11:20 PM

So, new year and new upgrade plans.

 

Just wanted to hear the thoughts of anyone who has these in their cars:

 

1. Focal Performance PS165

 

2 New: Focal Performance PS165FX

 

Is the new material in the FX worth the price bump from the PS165. I have no way of hearing them myself in person and I can only rely on reviews off the internet. So far, no decent review on the FX but it did win some awards, so it can't be half bad.

 

Also, I found this off Ebay and was wondering if it would fit my MK2.5 even though it is meant for the MK2:
 

http://www.ebay.co.u...s-/360623710681

 

Plan would be to get the sub enclosure and also get this JL Audio 10" sub to pair it up with:

 

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item2a295da815

 

Any suggestions regarding front speakers and 10" sub woofers would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks :)



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#2 Hassen

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Posted 01 May 2014 - 01:58 PM

So found a good deal that I couldn't pass up on Ebay today. I got the JL audio 10W0V3-4 subwoofer after making an offer. I been looking for that for a while as I now plan on getting the subwoofer enclosure as above and also Silent Coat 4mm sound deadening. This will be the summer project to get these in the car and make it quieter on long motorway journeys. Anyone here used the 4mm SIlent Coat in their cars? Any tips and reviews will be appreciated :)

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#3 ben1191

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Posted 01 May 2014 - 03:49 PM

Ill be honest,you could do just as good a job making that sub enclosure yourself,the cuts dont even need to be laser like they say,the carpet will hide it an anyway.Few bits of MDF and an hours time wouldnt cost you anywhere near 75 quid lol

 

In the description it does say 2005-2011,not everybody calls them mk2.5.



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Posted 01 May 2014 - 08:42 PM

Tempted to build my own sub but realistically, to get something that will fit, it will take a lot more time and effort than a few hours. Sadly these days, I don't have the luxury of spending time to build things which I always enjoy. By any chance, would you know where to get a diagram for the sub enclosure build?
 



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Posted 01 May 2014 - 08:46 PM

Not personally although someone else might.


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Posted 11 May 2014 - 11:23 AM

So, this weekend had a bit of time and had received the JL Audio sub woofer earlier. At first, I was going to wait till I have the funds to buy the sub enclosure and then fit it in the car. I couldn't wait and decided to take out the sub woofer out of the Vibe Slick 10 SLR that I had in the car and use the enclosure for the JL Audio sub. Here are some pictures.

 

JL Audio 10W0V3-4 sub woofer. It's quite heavy and you can tell the difference in quality from the Vibe subwoofer.

 

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This is the enclosure without the sub woofer.

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And here it is all fitted in.

 

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Finally in it's place for the moment in the boot.

 

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It was fairly easy to fit and just had to drill new holes for the JL Audio sub. I had some old screws at home and use them to secure the sub woofer to the enclosure. I think the enclosure might be a bit too big for this sub but for now it will have to do.

 

Impressions so far:

The difference in sound quality is staggering, and this is with the sub woofer not having bedded in properly or matched to a proper enclosure! This sub is definitely more musical than the Vibe one. It has that characteristic "thump" that hits your body hard and so far after a little bit of tweaking with the settings, it plays loud and doesn't distort at those volumes. I will have to run it in for a few weeks, get the enclosure, the one I mentioned before, which is better matched volume wise for this sub before making a proper review. So far though, I am very happy with it and I think, it will only get better in the next couple of weeks :)



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Posted 11 May 2014 - 10:18 PM

Dipped headlights on the right side packed in today after 6 months of excellent use. I had the Osram Nightbreakers Plus and for the amount of time they lasted, I think I got good value for money. Just ordered 2 sets of Osram Nightbreakers Unlimited from Ebay with free shipping. Think it was the cheapest around for free shipping to Ireland even though you can get it for cheaper without shipping on Amazon.

 

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item23310504df

 

Once installed, I will test them out properly and write a short review.



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Posted 11 June 2014 - 09:05 PM

Any recommendations for a decent set of component speakers preferrably around less than £150 as an upgrade. Amp pushes max 75W rms that would drive the speakers.

 

So far my thoughts are:
1. Focal PS 165

2. Infinity Kappy 65.9CS

 

Anyone has them or has any advice about them?

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Posted 20 June 2014 - 07:36 PM

Osram Nightbreaker Unlimited fitted and very happy with them. Hoping they last a bit longer than the previous Osrams :

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Posted 20 June 2014 - 08:51 PM

On holidays in Mauritius at the moment and surprised how many motor factor shops are around here. Also, the variety and quality of items from sound systems, alloys, remps...you name it, they have it, all the major brands!

 

Walked into a shop that dealt with audio equipment and surprised to find them having Focal. Asked the price and after days...yes days! of negotiation with the owner, managed to broker a deal on a set of Focal 165KR after hearing them demo it there. Truly amazed by the sound these speakers produced and the demo set was well worn! Best bit was playing Miles Davis - Turn Blue in the shop which totally caught off guard the 18-20 year old lads that were there getting the biggest sub they could find. Made me smile as one of them asked me what it was :)

 

This is the speakers, which are a step up in the Focal range from the PS165 that I had been longing to buy for ages.

 

http://www.focal.com...4051751322.html

 

Tomorrow, after a day at the beach, going to drive up to the shop and pick it up. I really can't wait to get my next paycheck now to be able to buy the sound deadening and the sub enclosure.

 

After that, my plan is to get a JL Audio JX250 mono block amp pushing 250W rms to power the sub (rated at 300W rms) and to wire up the Focal 165KR to my trusted Blaupunkt 470GTA 4 channel amp pushing 100W rms to power them. When I heard the demo Focal in the shop, it was being powered with a 35W rms amp and they sounded fantastic. Powered with the amp I have, I am hoping it will sound even better as that's the recommended rms rating for them. Exciting times ahead for my little Focus and pictures to follow :)



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Posted 22 June 2014 - 09:24 PM

After a very long day driving around in the sun, managed to get my hands on the Focal 165KR. Excited is not even describing it when I opened the box in the shop to check out if all was ok inside.

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Tomorrow returning back to Ireland, where I will need to get the following parts:

1. Silent Coat Extra Bulk Pack 4mm

 

http://www.ebay.co.u...984.m1423.l2649

 

2. Ford Focus custom 10" sub enclosure

 

http://www.ebay.co.u...984.m1423.l2649

 

3. JL Audio JX 250.1 mono block amp 

 

http://www.ebay.co.u...496310376&rt=nc

 

Plan would be to remove the rear stock speakers, put the current front Vibe Slick 6 speakers amped in there, powered by the current amp that will also power the Focal 165KR upfront. JL Audio 10" sub will then be powered by the JL Audio JX250.1 amp, which will all be in the custom enclosure. Also, my old 2 Farad capacitor will have to be fitted again for this setup. I will probably get the same audio guys, Autotronics to to the fitting for me once I have installed the sound deadening myself in the car. Hoping for no rain now so I can get that done soon :)



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Posted 02 July 2014 - 12:36 PM

So after a lot of research and I mean months of reading about sound deadening for the car, I have finally decided what I will be installing over the summer. 

 

1. Silent Coat Sound Deadening 2mm. This will go pretty much all over the car in moderate amount. Not going to cover every inch of the car with it. From what I gather, 25-50% coverage is more than enough as this is a vibration damper, not a noise barrier.

 

2. Dodo Pro Barrier MLV. Closed cell foam with Mass loaded vinyl. Plan is to have this over the floor and boot area with 100% coverage, including over the wheel arches inside the car. 

 

Quick question: The Dodo Pro Barrier MLV comes into 0.54sq.m / 5.8 sq. feet single sheets. How many would I need to cover what I have described above? Any help would be appreciated as I would like to order these today :)

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Posted 04 July 2014 - 03:03 PM

Update:
 

Bought the JL Audio JX250.1 amp (Used), Silent Coat 41 Sheet Bulk Pack 2mm and the custom enclosure. All off Ebay. Decided to hold off on getting the Dodo Pro Barrier and see what difference just the Silent Coat makes. Thanks to Mr_Spock for all the helpful advice and tips. 

 

Any tips on how to strip the interior now to put the Silent Coat would be well appreciated :)

 

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Posted 11 July 2014 - 10:56 PM

Today got the subwoofer enclosure and the Silent Coat delivered. The enclosure is well made and I can't find any faults with it. Feels sturdy and lightweight which I wanted. The Silent coat on the other hand, 40 sheets of it in total was heavy as hell! I was really surprised how heavy it was. It's probably heavier than a tyre. Quick picture of the enclosure.

 

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Posted 14 July 2014 - 08:59 AM

Had a busy weekend with birthday party for The Menace. Great craic! Didn't get a chance to do much for the car even though weather was ok on Sunday and I really wanted to strip the doors at least to put the Silent Coat.

 

Managed to take out the JL Audio sub out of the Vibe enclosure, wire/solder it up in the new enclosure and fit it in the car. All in, 1hr total as it was quite fiddly at times and I had my son trying to "help" by stealing my tools to go fix his own car/toys. 

 

End result, I am extremely impressed. This enclosure matches the specs for the subwoofer much better and as a result, the sound quality has improved a lot. The bass is definitely tighter and much more musical. No SPL/SQ competition winning so far but excellent to my untrained ears. Drive to work was very entertaining as I kept hearing new parts in songs. 

 

This afternoon I will go to B&Q to get some degreaser and a roller to stick on the Silent Coat. Reckon I might have time to do the front 2 doors if weather permits. I will post pictures of the new enclosure then :)



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