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#1 The Bear

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Posted 11 February 2014 - 07:10 PM

Hello. Again lol sorry for all the threads and posts  but I promise this is the last of the 'help' queries :)

 

Firstly, and I'm thinking this will be the easy bit, I am doing a service on the Con-Fusion and I want to change the ATF. Very grateful to Ford for putting a drain plug on the sump. Anyway the Haynes manual does not include any servicing guides for the autobox. Is it a case of draining the fluid with the engine cold and filling it up via the dipstick tube? Or does it need to be hot?

 

Secondly (and this will be the hard one)..... I'm stood at the lights and if I was to take my foot off of all the pedals and just let the car ''creep'' forward the car judders. The second I apply any throttle the juddering goes and the car drives sweetly. The gearbox fluid is full and in normal driving there's absolutely no slipping, juddering or anything and the box shifts almost unnoticeably. Just this ''creep judder''. Car only has 45k miles on and is a 2006 plate. What areas COULD it be. I'm thinking bent drive shaft or bad transmission. Anything else?     

 

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 07:41 PM

I would also like to know how to change the ATF as I'm going the do the mod on the gearbox actuators

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Posted 14 February 2014 - 11:37 PM

Hello. Again lol sorry for all the threads and posts  but I promise this is the last of the 'help' queries  :)

 

Firstly, and I'm thinking this will be the easy bit, I am doing a service on the Con-Fusion and I want to change the ATF. Very grateful to Ford for putting a drain plug on the sump. Anyway the Haynes manual does not include any servicing guides for the autobox. Is it a case of draining the fluid with the engine cold and filling it up via the dipstick tube? Or does it need to be hot?

  

Here are the steps from the service manual, no mention of temp;

 

 
Transmission Fluid Drain and Refill
 
 
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    1.    Raise and support the vehicle.
 
µ    2.    Note:
        If an internal transaxle concern is suspected, drain the fluid through a paper filter. A small amount of metal or friction particles may be found from normal wear. However, if excessive metal or friction particles are present, a detailed inspection of the transaxle will be required.
 
        Drain the transaxle.
 
l        Allow the fluid to drain into a suitable container.
 
l        Discard the drain plug seal.
 
µ    3.    Note:
        Install a new drain plug seal.
 
        Note:
        Clean the drain plug thread.
 
        Install the drain plug.
 
    4.    Lower the vehicle.
 
µ    5.    Remove the transmission fluid level indicator.
 
µ    6.    Fill the transaxle with automatic transmission fluid.
 
    7.    Check the transmission fluid level.


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Posted 14 February 2014 - 11:45 PM

I would also like to know how to change the ATF as I'm going the do the mod on the gearbox actuators

If you have  a 1.4 Fusion you have to suck the oil out from the fill or reverse switch hole as there is no drain plug. This is a manual IB5 box not an auto box as fitted to the 1.6's.



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Posted 15 February 2014 - 09:17 AM

If you have a 1.4 Fusion you have to suck the oil out from the fill or reverse switch hole as there is no drain plug. This is a manual IB5 box not an auto box as fitted to the 1.6's.

there is drain bung behind plastic where gear cables are a 19 nut an filler above it 8 Allen key

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Posted 15 February 2014 - 09:26 AM

there is drain bung behind plastic where gear cables are a 19 nut an filler above it 8 Allen key

Semi auto boxes don't have gear cables or a plastic shield and there is no drain plug.



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Posted 15 February 2014 - 09:27 AM

Did u not just say it's a manual

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Posted 15 February 2014 - 09:30 AM

1.4 is a semi auto, manual box with shift actuators



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Posted 15 February 2014 - 01:54 PM

Thanks guys. So a basic drain and refill cold..... excellent! :)

 

Ps, the stuff I'll be using is Fuchs ATF 4400. If you look at the spec on the Opie Oils site it matches the spec of oil required by Ford for the 1.6 autobox :)



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Posted 15 February 2014 - 01:55 PM

Pps, may do that suggestion of using a paper filter to look for big metal shavings in the tranny. Could clue me in to whether the box is at fault with regards to the juddering.



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Posted 16 February 2014 - 04:26 PM

Ps, does anyone know the capacity of this ''cold drain and refill''? I'm presuming most of the fluid will still be in the torque converter thus only draining what's in the sump?? :)



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