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#1 owensy

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Posted 12 February 2014 - 08:02 PM

Sorry about this but I'm worried I've bought a lemon! Bought my 53 plate estate and it was slow on turn over but now when I turn the key it just clicks and nothing else. Battery appears to be OK as lights don't dim. Had to get the as out and he said the wire was not tight (person I bought it said he replaced the starter 2 weeks ago) so he tightened it and it started. Went to it this morning and nothing. Any ideas?
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Posted 12 February 2014 - 08:29 PM

it does sound like the battery may be faulty as all litghs will work fine but wont turn over and clicks did the aa test the battery as i have seen alot of breakdown companys avoid doing that on call out try getting kwik fit to test it as is free or just try another battery ive not had this problem on a ford yet but on other last one was on a 308



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Posted 12 February 2014 - 08:41 PM

To be honest all he did was put a boost pack on but didnt after he tightened the lead. It started off the battery but was very slow to turn over. I ran it home (13 miles) and nothing this morning.



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Posted 12 February 2014 - 08:50 PM

sounds like the battery is dead really he should of done a battery test considering he had to boost it to start



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Posted 12 February 2014 - 08:59 PM

Ill try to jump it off my old Passat and see what happens but the weather is too windy to do it tonight.  Just so I can rule things out. Just feel crap as I finished work at 6pm and by the time the AA came out it was 10pm and this morning it was dead so I hopped in to the passat to get me to work!



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Posted 12 February 2014 - 09:01 PM

The wind is terrible today have you had snow there yet

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Posted 12 February 2014 - 09:08 PM

Had some yesterday and a bit of sleet but mainly wind!



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Posted 13 February 2014 - 11:33 AM

I tried to jump start this morning but still just goes click when I turn the key. So I dont think its the battery either the motor or cable to it?

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 12:20 PM

Just feel crap as I finished work at 6pm and by the time the AA came out it was 10pm
Jeez, that's shockingly bad service.  :blink: 

 

I had Green Flag out to my car at home a few months back, to take it to the garage.  They turned up in 1hr 5 minutes, AND are giving me a 50% discount next year because they didn't get there within an hour.



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Posted 13 February 2014 - 12:32 PM

I use the aa usauly they get to me within 40 mins you should get a call from them about the callout give them bad reviews

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 01:05 PM

Aye I just want to use my car :-( I have a few days off so I guess I'll be working to find a solution

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 01:47 PM

...Sorry about this but I'm worried I've bought a lemon! Bought my 53 plate estate and it was slow on turn over but now when I turn the key it just clicks and nothing else. Battery appears to be OK as lights don't dim. Had to get the as out and he said the wire was not tight (person I bought it said he replaced the starter 2 weeks ago) so he tightened it and it started. Went to it this morning and nothing. Any ideas?

When you got 'nothing' the rest of the electrics (lights, dash, etc) were still working, weren't they?

 

The 'as' are the AA? Which wire wasn't tight (and has it come loose again?)?

 

Any corrosion or other problems on the high current wire to the starter could be causing this. If the starter isn't drawing any current (bad wire, bad connection, or bad starter) then it wouldn't dim the lights, really, irrespective of battery condition. The starter relay could be gone - maybe, that was really the fault for which the previous changed the starter motor, and the previous got it wrong.

 

And, given that there has been messing about in the vicinity of the starter motor, check that they've put the wires back correctly (not hanging half off).

 

If in doubt, and struggling too much, go to a garage! I know they'll be more expensive, but if you spend weeks and weeks struggling with this, you'll regret it.

 

(BTW, is it an original battery? If so, it'll be pretty close to the end, by now, even if there is a fault somewhere else. And, this was a private sale, without any kind of warranty or additional guarantee, was it?)



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Posted 13 February 2014 - 01:54 PM

Thanks BOF I'll take a look at the weekend (weather permitting). It was a private sale sadly.

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 01:54 PM

When you try to start it, do all the dials sweep across to the right and back again?

 

It takes an immense amount of battery power to start a diesel, and if you've got the clicking sound plus the dial sweep, then those are the two classic symptoms of a dead battery, certainly as far as Fords are concerned.

 

Get a multimeter on the battery and check the voltage - you're looking for about 12.4V with the engine off.  If you're on the original battery (it will have a First Charge date marked on it somewhere), then you've got to bear in mind that it's more than eleven years old, and that's a pretty good innings for a battery.  When/if you replace it, make sure to get a Calcium Silver battery - ordinary lead-acid batteries are cheaper, but no good for your car, and you'll find yourself needing another a few months from now.



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Posted 13 February 2014 - 04:08 PM

Hi Big D, the dials don't move and I have connected jump leads to my Passat but still the same. I'll check it with a multimeter later. The lights don't even go dull.

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