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#1 Squeekie

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 01:17 PM

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I'm getting close to replacing my old Focus mk1 (2002) with a newer one.  I'm considering both second hand and brand new, but I'm having trouble deciding between which engine to go for.  Diesel or petrol?  I've been reading up on the subject and I can't seem to make up my mind.  What I want is a car that's fun to drive and with good acceleration.   I took a look at the dyno results from both engines from a tuning company, and as far as I can tell, the diesel looks much better on paper than the petrol.

 

With about 30% more torque, and therefore 30% more hp at the same rpm , the diesel seems to be a better choice.  I gather the extra weight of the engine (about 200lbs) and the fact you have to change gear more often, is why the 0-60mph time is slower than the petrol.

I live in Norway, so the diesel fuel prices are about 10-15% lower than petrol. Take that fact and add the higher mpg of the diesel, it seems like a no brainer.  

Even so, I can't shake the feeling that the petrol version would be much more fun to drive.

They both cost about the same to buy.

 

Any thoughts?

 

- John

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 07:15 PM

it depends on mileage if you do plenty of motorway iles then the diesel if not the petrol i know you say tune it but the warranty is invalid once you do that and dont listen to the tuning companies ford can do a map check and see if the ecu has been out with its set perameters



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Posted 26 February 2014 - 07:34 PM

I drive around 10k miles per year, mostly to work and back (20 miles round trip) so I guess petrol would be ok for those numbers. 

As for the remap, I'm sure they can check if its been mapped or not, but I'm ok with that. Not sure if I want to remap or not yet.  I have a fiesta mk7.5 as well with a remap and I love it  :)



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Posted 26 February 2014 - 10:38 PM

The Ecoboost is a great engine , and the newer ones 2012 owards will probably be the 180ps as agianst the 150ps , they are lively and have the power there whe you need it , but it's average it's never going to be in the ST power range even with a remap.

Not a great return on miles per gallon/litre though.

 

Diesel at 10,000 although as you say better on torque is probably not the best option for low miles. IMO.



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Posted 27 February 2014 - 03:03 PM

The Ecoboost is a great engine , and the newer ones 2012 owards will probably be the 180ps as agianst the 150ps , they are lively and have the power there whe you need it , but it's average it's never going to be in the ST power range even with a remap.

Not a great return on miles per gallon/litre though.

 

Diesel at 10,000 although as you say better on torque is probably not the best option for low miles. IMO.

Yea, I thought about the ST as well, but its way to pricey here in norway. 

Unfortunately, none of the local Ford dealerships have a Focus with either of the engines, they're all 1.0 ecoboost or 1.6 diesel  :( I'm going to a testrun with a 1.6 diesel today to get a feel of it.  Hopefully that will make up my mind between the two  :rolleyes: I already know how the 1.0 ecoboost drives.



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Posted 02 March 2014 - 10:18 PM

Yea, I thought about the ST as well, but its way to pricey here in norway. 
Unfortunately, none of the local Ford dealerships have a Focus with either of the engines, they're all 1.0 ecoboost or 1.6 diesel  :( I'm going to a testrun with a 1.6 diesel today to get a feel of it.  Hopefully that will make up my mind between the two  :rolleyes: I already know how the 1.0 ecoboost drives.


Hi squeekie

How did the 1.6 diesel drive. I'm looking to buy one but can't test it until Tuesday.

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Posted 02 March 2014 - 11:21 PM

It was pretty good. The diesel 1.6 (115ps)  was smooth and powerful enough for the car, but not as much fun to drive when you're pushing it compared to a petrol.  For everyday driving though, its a sure bet :)  

I'm looking for something with more grunt though, so it will most likely be the 2.0 tdci for me, but It'll have to wait a month or so.  Selling my house and moving soon so I'm going to wait until that's taken care of.

 

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Posted 03 March 2014 - 09:05 AM

if youre doing a 20 mile round trip then dont bother with the diesel, youll probably never get it fully warmed up and itll cause DPF and clogged up issues later on



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Posted 03 March 2014 - 06:59 PM

20 mile round trip, give the diesel a miss


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Posted 04 March 2014 - 10:42 AM

I had a remapped 150ps ecoboost and the performance was very good, and it made a nice noise. I could also get 57mpg on a run with 36mpg around town. If you get a Bluefin from Superchips you can remove the map when the car goes into a service and I've never had that detected. Superchips also will give you a one year warranty against mechanical failure...



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