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#1 lobster

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Posted 28 March 2014 - 06:02 PM

hello folks,

first post on here because I became a ford owner today.

Just picked up a 2013 ford direct grand c max titaniux x. Car is fantastic inside, showroom condition, great stereo, DAB which ive never had before in a car and I can stick a 64GB USB stick in with all my music on, great.

Bought it from Evans Halshaw who were fairly good except my £20 of fuel was not included (well, I'm assuming it wasnt as the fuel light went on after 5 miles)......which brings me to my point.

I got the 1.6 ecoboost (182ps) engine after looking at the mpg figures of 45 ish and thinking if I got 35-40 i'd be happy.

On the way home though, mainly dual carriage with some country roads the mpg was only about 24mpg. 

When I put the screen to display instantaneous mpg it was 6mpg going up a hill, but not a massive hill by any description.

Is this the kind of mpg I can expect in "real" driving conditions. If it is I'm not enormously impressed which is a shame because the car itself is nice to drive and is well put together inside. 

Anyone else with this engine getting better mpg or are the Ford listed stats just pie in the sky?

thanks

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#2 Lozspd4

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Posted 28 March 2014 - 07:45 PM

Hello Martin

                    Ive got the 1.6 ecoboost with 150 BHP im puliing in about 39 mpg with moderate driving mixed between town and out of town use. On German motorway with Cruise control set about 70mph not many hills run to Berlin actually got it to 42mpg. But then again thats one Boring straight Motorway.

 

So anything between 35 and 40 is about realistic.

 

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Posted 29 March 2014 - 07:06 PM

hi there,

was out again today and was just keeping the guage on instantaneous readings to see what type of mpg I was getting.

Even on the flat a slight press of the accelerator to just keep a steady pace resulted in 12 mpg, there was no hard acceleration here and as a result the average mpg barely crept above 30mpg with careful driving trying to keep away from using the turbo too much.

Not impressed right now and wishing id gone diesel.



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Posted 29 March 2014 - 07:32 PM

Ignore the instantaneous mpg. In fact, ignore the average aswell. Fill it up and drive it with ZERO care on saving or staying out of the turbo etc. THEN take your average. They've put the turbo there for a reason after all.
My evo sometimes reads 4mpg on instantaneous!!!! But over a weeks driving it managed 27.4.

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Posted 30 March 2014 - 04:34 PM

Hello Martin

                   What Kristtriple says is roughly correct. taking it too easy wont make things better, Being a Long distance HGV Driver ive been on upteen fuel saving Seminars. and it takes time,to get the best technique  that works for you.three main things are to accelarate quick (not a formula one start) and get in to the next gear which the car can handle ie 1st to 3rd leave 2nd out. or start in second, think in advance  can save alot of fuel, stay in the Highest gear as along as possible avoid stop starts when coming to traffic lights, it better  to accerate from 5 mph as from 0mph this saves a lot of fuel. Reach a constant Speed and stay there

 

The ecoboost engine works on the same principle as a desiel engine when decreasing Speed, in that as Long as the clutch is engaged and gear is in it starves the engine of fuel till it reaches the Computer programmed low revs, then lets fuel in the engine otherwise the engine would stall. you can see this in the display when you take foot of the accelerator it will go to 0mpg. using  this techniqe alot will save fuel. Coasting with clutch in uses fuel as the engine is recieving fuel to Keep the engine going.

 

Acelerating and then braking straight away wastes fuel, and on roads with a lot of hills turn the cruise control off and acelerate manually, Human sensors are a lot better then Computer. 

 

This takes alot of pratice, But after a while you will be doing it automatically and save a lot of fuel, and you wont be slower then the car that just shot past you and stands at the next traffic lights and you come up behind with out stopping and accelerate away when it goes green, as you know you will over take him again cause he has to fill up lol.

 

If the figures don,t get better then i would speak with you dealer.

 

Sorry if i am telling you to suck eggs but People don,t get taught this.

 

The c-max is as of yet the best Petrol car ive owned for fuel consuption, for its size weight and engine. ive owned. The readout on the Display is only a rough guide and not what is really being used.

 

regards Laurence



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Posted 02 April 2014 - 06:02 AM

In my 2013 1.6 Ecoboost (150), I'm averaging just over 35mpg. On long a-road journeys, rises to about 37.
Live on edge of London, so driving is stop-start urban, lots of short journeys, occasional motorway.
Before this, we had the 1.6TDCi, which I hated... painfully slow in town, and felt like you had to phone ahead to order your power to pull away at the next junction. That said, the diesel was good on mway cruises, but so frustratingly slow below 50mph. On our short journeys, 1.6 diesel was just under 40 in winter months.
When Which tested the (not grand) cmax 1.6 ecoboost, they got 36.7 urban, 47.1 extra urban, 32.6 motorway, 40.9 combined. Obv the normal cmax is lighter, but I found the mway one quite interesting - my economy also drops away really quickly above 70mph.
Overall I love the car, and IMHO unless you're doing lots of mway, you made a great choice not going diesel! But I bet the 2.0 diesel is great though...

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Posted 03 April 2014 - 11:36 AM

thanks for the replies everyone. Would love to know how which managed to get 47.1mpg, i havent bettered 32.5 yet and ive been using cruise control when appropriate and not slowing down / speeding up when not required. Maybe i'm just used to my old diesel 1.9 turbo golf which would average 55 no problem and 62 if you made a deliberate effort to be efficient with the driving.

Darren, I too have noticed that at 70mph the car seems to almost struggle to cruise and uses loads of fuel to maintain that speed, and if it encounters an incline i'm doomed!

I'm just a bit peeved that ford can claim mpgs that are blatantly not possible in real driving conditions and if you are lucky you'll get 60% of their figure, shouldnt be allowed really.



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Posted 03 April 2014 - 12:56 PM

It's not just Ford. All the manufacturers figures are wrong. I think the government tests the cars. And, it's under unrealistic conditions.
As a general rule, I knock 10% - 15% off of the manufacturers mpg figures when I'm choosing cars. Then there is no chance of disappointment.

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 06:21 AM

Think you've been spoiled by a good Golf diesel!
If it helps, at 70, I find there's enough go in my 150bhp version - wouldn't say it struggles. I almost think 6th could be taller to save more fuel - the opposite of how I felt with the 1.6 diesel.
But, I only get indicated 34ish at 70mph, dropping to about 28mpg at 85-90.
Re Which tests, it says "We test fuel economy under strict lab conditions using realistic test cycles to reveal the facts behind the figures. Our figures rarely match manufacturer claims as, unlike the official mpg test, we mea- sure economy with both a hot and cold engine, and on the motorway." From the pics, I think they use a motorway to test motorway consumption, but a rolling road for the rest. Might explain why their figs are still better than you or I will ever see. Or maybe cos their test was in lighter, "normal" 5seat cmax, not a grand?
Either way, wouldn't it be off-the-wall to have an official test that told you what you might actually get?! How many miles has yours done - engine still loosening up maybe?

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 06:33 AM

Having though about it, I do see what you mean now about struggling to cruise... The one good thing about the old diesel was that, whatever you did, it just somehow crept up to 90 where it felt happiest. Even though there's enough go, the petrol feels much happier at 70. Never quite sure if that's because our old car had 16inch wheels, which made mway journeys much more comfy, whereas the 17s are fidgety by comparison at speed (I'd swap for the zetec 16s!)

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Posted 04 April 2014 - 09:17 AM

hello darren

I echo your comments about listing actual mpg's achievable rather than lab condition ones!!

Car has done 5300 miles so I dont know if it has anymore capacity to loosen up, would be nice to think it can only get better.



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Posted 04 April 2014 - 11:07 AM

Hi all

        Im amazed at the diffrences in mpg at 70mph, i do a lot of driving to Berlin in Germany and at 70mph (120kmh) and from hanover to Berlin i drive 300kms non stop. Cruise control in, It,s a newish motorway road Surface is Suberb, Tested it again yesterday 19 degrees outside still pulled in about 41.25 mpg, i have 17s BBS Alloys on but have pur Conti summer tires fitted low ressistence. so i think that proberly Plays a Major factor in mpg. the motorway Surface in the uk isnt as smooth as that in Germany. which proberly causes a lot of rolling ressistance. But like i said anything over 35mpg im happy, but dont think ill ever get to the magical 47mpg as advetised by Ford. But thanks for your info made intresting reading.   



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