Mk4 - 1.8Tdci - Almost Stall Before Startup?

[jeebowhite]

Hi Guys,

So, whilst I have been away and quiet over the last month recovering, I purchased myself a 2007 MK IV Mondeo 1.8TDCi, Its a nice car, but comes with a few small niggles as most used cars would!

It has done 111,111 miles!

The slight irritation I have at the moment, is that on a couple of ocassions, the car appears to struggle to start a little.... As I turn the key over, it ticks over for a second and then seems like its about to stall before returning to full life.

Its only happened twice, and I think one of those was me stopping the cranking before it had fully kicked into life, but as the car has a few months of warranty, I am picking up on all these things!

So, the car has no error codes, doesnt appear to misbehave generally speaking (a couple of queries to ask but otherwise its good) so I am just wondering if anyone has any thoughts? The service history states that the car has had the DMF and clutch replaced a couple of year ago (Cant remember the exact date) if thats any help!

Thanks

James

[alexp999]

Is it worse first thing, when it is cold, etc?

Do you have any history on whether the glow plugs have ever been changed?

[mick85]

They have a wet belt if car don't have full service history with right oil changed at exact interval ford won't stand over time change interval have u checked for any faults yet

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[jeebowhite]

Thanks guys,

The issue only appears to have been on a couple of cool mornings, this morning it was about 10-12 degrees outside.

Mick, I checked but no error codes are showing when I scan them with Torque, I might try and get ELM Config on there, or F Super and see if either report any additional errors, but I think its all ok in that respect.

With the car being at 111k, I have thought about the belts, but then it doesnt misbehave any other time, It had a service done just before I bought it, so the juices were replaced...

[mick85]

So do u think it's start motor related is it during cranking process or as it fires up

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[jeebowhite]

Seems to be that split second between starter motor kicking the engine into life. I think I need to keep an eye on it to be honest it's probably daft to diagnose it based on the split second experience, I will have to hold the starter for that split longer and see what goes!

The glow plug light stays on for about 8 seconds, but I would expect a dtc for that, the starter doesn't have any duff noises before stall noise, and generally it behaves...

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[mick85]

I would defo replace glow plug they easy to change an cheap an then just keep ur eye on starter motor

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[jeebowhite]

I was thinking that to be honest I just have to price them up, and wait till funds are available lol.

Are they easy enough? I know the focus mk2 and cmax can strip and separate but wondering if it's the same on the mondy?

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[mick85]

Yeah they at front don't need remove anything get them out just make sure don't lose little 7 nuts when removing loom best have magnet at hand incase

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[jeebowhite]

Cheers mick, I'm sure Haynes will help when I do it, it's a shame it's not a major issue could have had it fixed under warranty but he won't do it for me on a one off!

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[mick85]

Well u can test ur glow plugs with a multimeter or jump lead an battery so u will at least no if one or to gone

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[jeebowhite]

Thats true, it will probably be beneficial, I will probably have to allow myself a bit more opportunity to recover before I go diving under the motor!