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#106 sonic113

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Posted 23 July 2014 - 09:53 PM

Thanks southbound
I will look through your guide when my Möbius arrives in post.
Thanks again.

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Posted 26 July 2014 - 10:00 AM

To answer these questions all together:

 

I am using the stock battery, but as it is hardwired and it only draws power for the 10s it needs to power down when the ignition is switched off.  I read that the battery does reduce in capacity over time but I'll see how long that takes before putting in a super capacitor or new battery (which are only a couple of quid anyway).  I like that I can take the camera out and use it off the battery if I want to.

 

My install is shown in this thread  http://www.fordowner...dashcam/page-14  It is worth reading the whole thread and there is some really good stuff in there to make the most of the Mobius.  Basically I only needed a piggy back fuse tap, a 3m long cable which included a 12V to 5V transformer and ended in a 90 degree mini USB connector which plugs into the back of the Mobius.  I added a second cable to the storage compartment on the dash for my SatNav which was easy to do as well.

 

I can't remember which fuse I tapped into but it is in the thread I have linked above and is ignition live, which means it is only powered when I turn on the ignition.

 

I don't run a rear cam but this could be an option sometime if I want to.

 

I used normal bathroom clear silicone, although my first attempt used stuff I had for gutter repair and it fell off so not all silicones are the same.  This one has held firm for a few months now and that includes days at 35 degrees in full sun without any problem.  I basically squirted it onto the back of the mount and pressed it onto the screen, wiping off the excess.  Not sure what happens if I need to take it off, but I'll worry about that when I need to.

 

 

OK got my Mobius today and I must say very very small and compact camera.

Been using it to record some sample footage with it on the battery and find it very good and easy to use.Very good quality as well.

 

southbound, 

do you or anyone have a guide on hard wiring the Mobius into the focus and or a link to that 12v-5v wire you mentioned?

 

also i saw on the other thread you linked to regarding batteries and capacitors, I myself will just keep the battery installed in it as you have. I mean your 13 hour in use journey was a great way of testing the mobius lol!

 

also just out of curiosity has anyone linked the cam with an android device or anything yet?

 

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Posted 26 July 2014 - 07:53 PM

That was quick, I think mine took about 3 weeks to come in from China.

 

The other thread I linked has quite a lot of stuff about the 12V/5V connector and a guide to hardwiring if you look through it from the start.  I just added my couple of photos as I deviated a bit from the guide that was already on there.  My battery is still going strong after 6 months of use - it used to be able to record over an hour on one charge but to be honest I haven't tested it fully recently to know if that is reduced or not.  There is a way of connecting it to an andorid device using the OTG cable but I haven't tried, so others ahould be able to advise.  Hope all that helps, and don't forget to let us know how you get on.



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Posted 26 July 2014 - 09:09 PM

No problem I will have areas through the thread and see if I can give it a go at hardwiring it in without blowing up anything lol!

Thanks again. I will post up pics when I get all installed.

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 12:17 PM

 

Sonic the guide is done by me and James. Yes it is upto date it's done with my mobius in my Mk2.5 ZS so you aren't gonna get any more accurate of a guide than that I will try and post up the cables and bits needed later. I will also sort you out a link for a reliable 32gb sd card used by Ben in his mobius

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Kurt post me the links in this thread if you can as its easy for me to find.

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Posted 28 July 2014 - 10:12 PM

Here is the SD card that ben is currently using in his mobius

 

http://www.ebay.co.u...5858705&afsrc=1

 

 

Here is the right angle 3M usb cable, i purchased from this exact cable from this seller

 

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item1e7ef0a876

 

Here is the OTG cable

 

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item258ca2c188

 

 

Here is the piggy back kit, again same seller exact one i purchased

 

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item35b3f1106b



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Posted 28 July 2014 - 10:14 PM

Note that you must use this specific OTG cable or modify one of you own, not all USB layout are the same, the link above is ideal for your mobius



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Posted 28 July 2014 - 10:38 PM

Note that you must use this specific OTG cable or modify one of you own, not all USB layout are the same, the link above is ideal for your mobius

 

Thanks kurt I will get this exact one.

 

 

Here is the SD card that ben is currently using in his mobius

 

http://www.ebay.co.u...5858705&afsrc=1

 

 

Here is the right angle 3M usb cable, i purchased from this exact cable from this seller

 

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item1e7ef0a876

 

Here is the OTG cable

 

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item258ca2c188

 

 

Here is the piggy back kit, again same seller exact one i purchased

 

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item35b3f1106b

 

Kurt I have a little electrical experience but not a great level. I have never added a new circuit like this to a car system but Like everything I'm willing to learn and give it ago as long as the cars electrical system doesn't get frayed lol! so forgive me if my questions are a little backwards lol!  :wacko:

 

Just a question about the  "piggyback" and the " 3 meter cable", is it safe enough to crimp the 20amp piggy back to the small inverter cable wire that is only 3amps?  :mellow:

 

 

with the "piggy back" will the circuit that we plug into still be protected?

I mean for example say you plug into the radio circuit fuse, if the radio circuit fuse ever blew will the camera power be cut or can it run as if its on a completely separate circuit with its own fuse?

and like ways if the camera ever blew a fuse with the radio fuse still be ok?

I'm just wondering as they are plugged into the same port on the fuse box.

 

 

one last thing has your mobius been running 100% with this hardwired set up?

 

Thanks again for the links.

 

I have ordered the OTG Cable and the memory card. Once you get back t me on these few questions I will order the rest.

 

Thanks again Kurt.



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Posted 28 July 2014 - 11:04 PM

 

Thanks kurt I will get this exact one.

 

 

 

Kurt I have a little electrical experience but not a great level. I have never added a new circuit like this to a car system but Like everything I'm willing to learn and give it ago as long as the cars electrical system doesn't get frayed lol! so forgive me if my questions are a little backwards lol!  :wacko:

 

Just a question about the  "piggyback" and the " 3 meter cable", is it safe enough to crimp the 20amp piggy back to the small inverter cable wire that is only 3amps?  :mellow:

 

 

with the "piggy back" will the circuit that we plug into still be protected?

I mean for example say you plug into the radio circuit fuse, if the radio circuit fuse ever blew will the camera power be cut or can it run as if its on a completely separate circuit with its own fuse?

and like ways if the camera ever blew a fuse with the radio fuse still be ok?

I'm just wondering as they are plugged into the same port on the fuse box.

 

 

one last thing has your mobius been running 100% with this hardwired set up?

 

Thanks again for the links.

 

I have ordered the OTG Cable and the memory card. Once you get back t me on these few questions I will order the rest.

 

Thanks again Kurt.

 

There is no inverter on this cable, the round plastic part is a fuse, exact type of fuse you'd find in a plug from any of your home electrical appliance (However it's a smaller rated fuse) during installation you'll need to chop this part off as you won't be using it, the piggy back it self will fuse the circuit, this fuse in the plastic part comes with the 3 meter cable if you were to wire it say for example directly to the battery.

 

It is save to connect the 3A cable to the 20A yes, if it was the other way round it would be unsafe, the piggy back can take anything upto 20A, anything less than that is 100% safe, the 3 meter cable only handles 3A and that's good for few mobius camera

 

 

That is the entire point of the piggy back, it creates a completely separate circuit , either fuse can blow individually on their own accordance in the event of a fault, they aren't link, if the camera fuse blow only the camera would be affected, nothing else.

 

Mobius works perfect hard wired, constant direct power once ignition is on so yes 100%

 

Follow the guide and you'll be fine, i took lots of detailed photos to make it simple and clear for everyone, use your fuse puller tool, this is all mentioned in the guide read it all it's not much to read,

 

Here is the guide

 

http://www.fordowner...bius-actioncam/



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Posted 28 July 2014 - 11:09 PM

An inverter changes AC electricity, the stuff used in our homes to DC, the stuff used in our cars and all battery devices, the Car is DC and so is the mobius so there is no need to convert the power in anyway, the 3M 3 A cable act as a resistor and limits the power going to the camera, from 12V (your car battery) to 5V powering your camera, the fuse limit current to protect to cable from burning up, therefore make sure you use a 3A fuse

 

EDIT: Don't let the name confuse you these asian sellers don't have a !Removed! clue what they are selling, incorrect terms being used the cable is not a converter it's an adaptor


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Posted 28 July 2014 - 11:35 PM

kurt

 

sorry mate I meant to say "converter" and not "inverter".

I got confused with those 12v to 230v Inverters for the car battery to a plug thing lol!

 

 

Thanks for the information and explaining.

 

I think I got it now lol!

 

Just for my own head ache I'm i correct in saying:

 

- the "Converter" (3m lead) job is to take the 12v from car supply and bring it down to 5v for the camera (Basically what the small plugin USB adapters for in car do to charge phones ect) as 12v would damage the camera because its rated at 5v to work..

 

- the piggy back is to split the one circuit into 2 separate circuits with there own rated fuse. (Kind of like a plug in wall adopter at home  :mellow: lol!)

 

-  It's ok to take small amps to a high rated amp lead (ie 3amp from device to 20 amp piggy plug), but is dangerous to do the opposite (ie 15 amps to 5amp piggy plug) because it may overheat/overload the smaller amp lead.

 

 

I have ordered all the links you posted. I also have downloaded the guide and will follow it when the leads come. I will post pics of the finished installation as well in case it may help others.

 

one more thing, what settings do you recommend to use in the Mobius for the dash cam setup?

 

 

I really appreciate your time and effect Kurt with the links and explaining the circuit setup.

 

always learn something new everyday lol!

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Thanks mate.



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Posted 28 July 2014 - 11:45 PM

All above is correct it is those home wall adaptors indeed except each outlet is fused rather than everything on one fuse.

If I'm honest I don't really remember my settings it's now been a while since I've checked since I have nothing of interest recorded. I do know that HDR is turned off, in summer it's too bright for it but when I first got my cam in winter it wasn't bad it actually made the image better.

It's a feature for low light anyways

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Posted 29 July 2014 - 12:15 AM

thanks Kurt

when installed i will have a play about with different setting and see what suits me the best.

 

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