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Posted 15 June 2014 - 05:02 PM

so this is now lack of coolant in the system?


Im not 100% sure! I think it's warning that the car is running too hot/overheating.

Would a blocked/failed radiator cause the engine to be up to operating temp so quickly and then running hot super quick?

I'm praying it is the radiator now,, I'd happily pay for a new one but fear the worst and that the head gasket could be gone.

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Posted 15 June 2014 - 05:05 PM

Just to clarify that the guy at the garage gave me some stuff to put in my expansion tank last week, he told me to run it for a few days and then he undid a little screw thing on the bottom of the radm drained the fluids and then refilled everything.

There also a few bubbles in my expansion tank but I'm certain that's from earlier when I was trying to get the airlock out.

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Posted 15 June 2014 - 05:05 PM

if it was a blocked rad (my experience) the top hose entering the rad would be quite firm and not easy squeezable due to pressure build up, and the bottom hose would be cold........ like a air lock....



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Posted 15 June 2014 - 05:06 PM

the screw thing on the bottom of the rad is the drain plug lol...



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Posted 15 June 2014 - 05:20 PM

Run the engine up with the expansion tank cap off again but not too hot or yoy'll get spraying again.
Any bubbles coming up would signify airlocks.
When was the coolant changed if ever?
Colour of the coolant?
Check the rad for dirt on the fins and if need be give it a good clean off.
Maybe flush the rad followed by fresh coolant mix.

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Posted 15 June 2014 - 05:38 PM

Prior to the coolant being done earlier in the week it was only ever topped up. The coolant is red.
Seeing any bubbles is now impossible as my expansion tank looks like someone put some fairy liquid in it lol. From the arts of the rad I can see it looks fine, no damage or dirt.

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Posted 15 June 2014 - 05:53 PM

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Posted 15 June 2014 - 06:37 PM

tbh ive not seen a coolant tank looking like that before.....  im totally stumped......



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Posted 15 June 2014 - 06:51 PM

That definately doesnt look right.

 

Ordinarily I wouldnt suggest throwing parts at it, but I am beginning to think there is something wrong there.

 

The bubbling, the texture - it doesnt seem right. It seems there is something there that shouldnt be?



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Posted 15 June 2014 - 06:53 PM

instead of using a coolant flush for the system, it looks like the op have used fairy platinum haha..... 

 

as james states it dont look good....



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Posted 15 June 2014 - 07:04 PM

Are you still getting a weird puffing noise under the bonnet? Bubbles in expansion.. Does it smell of fuel?

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Posted 15 June 2014 - 08:30 PM

As I mentioned earlier those bubbles weren't there until after I revved it up earlier and the coolant sprayed out, it like frothed the coolant up. When I popped out earlier they had gone and reappeared after I left it idling for a while.

There's no puffing noise, its smells warm, so a big oily,

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Posted 15 June 2014 - 08:32 PM

due to the probs you are having, are you driving around with the internal heater on hottest setting?



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Posted 15 June 2014 - 08:46 PM

due to the probs you are having, are you driving around with the internal heater on hottest setting?




No we don't have the heating on at all.
I've just been out to the car again and coolant looks fine, no foaming, idling there is still no foaming, rev the car and the little/thin pipe that feeds into the top of the expansion ( think it's direct from the block) is feeding coolant back into the tank and that's where the foaming is from, I'm sure that's the part water pump is pumping, (I could be wrong)
could it possibly be that there was block somewhere there and the cleaner I used earlier in the week has finally cleared something out and for whatever reason it didn't come out when he flushed the rad and now that cleaner flush stuff is foaming up?

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Posted 15 June 2014 - 09:14 PM

That could well be playing a part. I would say the best technique is to flush once with the decent stuff, then flush once with water. I would suggest then fill with water and run the engine and do the airlock removal, this then should flush the contaminants around the system and dilute them, then drain this, and flush cleanly once more, then at the end top it up with the good stuff.

 

These combinations should suffice to make sure that this isnt playing a part. The only problem is that if the rad is blocked and the contaminant is on the other side then it could happen again.

 

I would probably suggest that in order to prevent a great investment in a new rad, call around a few scrappies and get a used one. Before you do this though, I would check all the wiring carefully, the stat housing, the coolant tank. Last thing I would want to say is buy a new rad to find that its something else.



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