Kye Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Yay..... Thankfully I don't drive in there. But even so.... www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-28540259 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeebowhite Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 WTF!!! OK so I will just pull out the old 3.5 litre petrol Merc SLK and I just pay the Congestion Charge, meanwhile I get my 1.4TDCi and I get shafted for another £10.... Boris seriously needs to stop being a douche. He has stupid idea's way above his station, I can understand old cacky diesels that put out more soot than gas - fully agree, but you should not blanket all diesels just because they were not bought in January next year :| I am thinking a few swear words about this idiot. I dont drive into Central London often, but I can guarantee there will be a day where it needs to happen, I just feel sorry for all those who do! this guy is beyond morals... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCat Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Not due for another 6 years though by which time we will all be getting around in robotic pods powered by rabbit farts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeebowhite Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 haha, love it Rick! To be fair though, even if it is 6 years, its not really an incentive for people to give up their cars they have now and just get the new Euro 6 or probably Euro 8 by that time :| Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeingrove Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Has to be a wind up cos the ratio of black cabs to diesel cars has to be 3-1 and as all cabs are diesel... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kye Posted July 29, 2014 Author Share Posted July 29, 2014 Time to re-evaluate the use of EGR's and such like?.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeebowhite Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 pfft, just get rid of the EGR's, DPF and anything that makes it better :P if your going to be persecuted you might as well do the job properly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixmasterlooney Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 That is just a back stab. After the government tell us to buy diesel and all this filth now they want us to get rid of it? 6 years is not long that's a good amount of time to keep a new car. its so wrong borris can be such a knob. The busses are the problem because they've been there way before diesel cars were this popular. And public transport isn't even upto the challenge Sent from my GT-N7105 using Ford OC mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philf1 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 The new petrol cars are now starting to threaten diesels MPG figures as well now and all those electric hybrid thingies are getting even more and we all pay a lot less for RFL as a result so wait and see how the government hikes that up pretty soon as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixmasterlooney Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Yeah I think that's because manufacturer have neglected to advance diesel. Why no ecoboost diesel? Why no 3 cylinder diesel? Why no hybrid diesel? Sent from my GT-N7105 using Ford OC mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeebowhite Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 agree entirely, but the eco engines havent really had a decent opportunity to be seen as strong and reliable as the diesel is, it could be that the art of petrol eco engines is far from mastered, in which case people (like me) would rather buy a diesel they know is generally bulletproof, than to buy a 1.0 eco/turbo that is a lot of work to fight the weight of a big car. I struggle to see how the likes of the 1.0 turbo/eco engine on the ecosport will fair as well as a diesel equivelant. Thats a lot of weight to put on a small donkey! We might find that these petrol engines can far outlive diesels, likewise, we might find that they are only truely good for 80-100k on the clock... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kye Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 Well it seems that other cities are watching Boris' example and might jump on the band wagon! Islington council is now in the process of fining vehicles that leave their engines running while stationary. So junctions, jams and bus stops will be targetted it also seems that NOx and other such Nitric nasty's are the target now. They're to blame for 7000 deaths due to poor air quality. They are looking to charge pollution taxes to enter city centres. Not such a huge deal for me at least. I'd rather not drive into cities at all. However it is the rumblings of upping the road tax that scares me. A range of articles are saying that the tax bands will remain the same, but who knows what the government and Herr Boris has up his sleeves. Euro 6 engines will be exempt from these charges. However I'm reading that cars pre 2006 will come under attention. What this attention is I can't find out. Anyone have any ideas? With such a range of experiences on these forums, is there anyone out there that can shed some light from experience or educated opinion? It would be nice to keep up to date with what the powers that be are planning. Is there a way to reduce the NOx emissions ourselves? EGR blanking, remaps etc? Or is the produce of these gases part of the diesel life? I have read that Mazda has reduced their compression ratio's to get results. What does that mean exactly? Shorter piston strokes? Less pressure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCat Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 It won't be on your particular personal car but on the model. They will do it by reg number as it was when it manufactured. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyrule Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Ties in nicely with ANPR being used more across London. Everything will be done via your reg plate, road tax, insurance, fines. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philf1 Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 There's been rumours of congestion charges in Leeds. Hope not as I work in the city centre. Sent from my iPhone using Ford OC mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marks12 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 so let me get this right he wants to ban the dirtiest diesels from driving through london?? and charge the rest of the diesels 10quid hahah hes useless if england is anyway like Ireland and is selling dirty diesel to people then boris has only his own government to blame for not properly putting there foot down. another thing does the big ships that sail up and down that river get charged they are probably 60% of the problem right there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeebowhite Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 Probably not as they are not contributing to congestion, and what about diesel trains also? It's just another way to shaft the average driver really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyrule Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 thats what we get when londoners vote for this twit with a yellow mop on his head. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marks12 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Probably not as they are not contributing to congestion, and what about diesel trains also? It's just another way to shaft the average driver really. they may not by causing congestion them ships but they do cause pollution and it is my understanding this congestion charge is there to promote using public transport when entering london. with the idea being less cars on the streets of london to cause pollution. Boris hasn't got a notion does he i'll tell you one thing the irish government better not copy him and bring it in for Dublin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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