Re Attaching Rear Door Weather Seal

[itsrelfy]

Hi all

The weather seal on my passenger rear door has been torn away from the door itself. It seems to be stuck on. The car is a mk3 focus.

What do you guys think would be the best stuff to reattach it temporarily as I'm driving to France in it tomorrow. At the moment it sticks out proud from the car when the door is shut.

I was thinking silicone sealant as it would be waterproof but I don't know if that would work. Then I thought of that gorilla glue advertised on the TV

Any suggestions.

Thanks. Adrian

[mjt]

I would use an impact adhesive such as Evo Stik.

[Maxxxykins]

Any double sided industrial tape you should the trick,

When you get back, im guessing you're going to anyway, but take it to the dealership and they will sort it.

[jeebowhite]

have you got a picture?

[SeanW]

If it's come away from the frame, then you should be able to push it back on. If it won't stay puy, you've probably got some of the rubber caught

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[itsrelfy]

Hi all

There's nothing to it back to it's like a self adhesive seal that sticks to the bottom of the door.

I've got some silicone. I'm gonna try it first then if that don't work I'll resort to tape.

But when I get back to the uk ill book it in. Can't understand how it's ripped off though.

I think I'm attaching a picture to this. (Providing it works!)

Thanks

Adrian.

[jeebowhite]

just use something like double sided tape to keep it in place, or you could try bike puncture rubber sealant

[alexlark]

I had the exact same problem on my 2013 plate. I googled this last week and didn't find anything. Just came across this. I stuck mine back on with narrow double sided tape. Poor how it's happened after only 1 year though

[itsrelfy]

I did mine with clear silicone. Worked a treat and it'll still be watertight. It is a bit rubbish but not knowing how it came off I can't really criticise ford. Weird design though with it being held on by such a narrow and small joint.

[M4RC]

I've had the same problem, I just used numberplate tape and it seems to be doing the trick

[Foci_st3]

Just noticed my 62 plate has done this on the right rear door and starting to come away on the left rear door. Does anyone know if this comes under the warranty or not before I go into ford on Monday.

[labbyloodle]

mine did exactly the same......just use industrial double sided tape and stick i back on...works absolutely fine i promise!

[itsrelfy]

Probably would be warranty but I'd imagine it's more hassle than it's worth because it will only happen again.

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[Ford_Man]

This sounds like a common issue, one of my old focus' did this (13 plate) I think it was. Think I used silicone and it stayed at least till I gave the car back in haha

[jogo78]

I had this on both my front doors, really annoying!

When it went in for a service i got Ford to re stick them but that didn't last long. I tried double sided car seal tape which also didn't last, so i've now re-stuck them using Loctite and that seems to have done the trick nicely.

[WES180]

Ford told me all seals are only guaranteed for the first 12 months when i had a boot leak. I thought that was appalling to be honest!

[Foci_st3]

Went to ford today and the confirmed the interior and door rubbers only have 12 months warranty, they could of done it for me today if I left it with them but decided to do it myself with some clear silicon sealant and masking tape to hold it in place until it's fully dry. Had to do a bit on the drivers door and left rear door aswell.

[WES180]

Went to ford today and the confirmed the interior and door rubbers only have 12 months warranty.

Did you think i was making it up?:D

[jeebowhite]

I think he was more hoping it wasn't true...

[Markel]

I've had the same thing on 3 of my doors on my 62 Eco Boost over the past eighteen months or so.  It got so bad that the rubber strips were almost dragging on the road or sticking out at right angles to the door!  

Ford (Keith Motors - Ringwood, Christchurch, Verwood who sold me the car) just weren't interested and said emphatically that it wasn't their responsibility and that it would cost £100 per door to replace the rubbers.  They would charge £40 per door to try to reglue them - but they couldn't guarantee success!  (NB- Keith Motors will take your money very happily but then you're on your own!)

I tried a couple of adhesives which didn't work, but found that by far the best is 'Evo Stick Multi Purpose Impact Instant Contact Adhesive'.  A couple of quid from Screwfix, and my god it's powerful stuff!  Tip - get a small paint brush as the spreader supplied is worse than useless on a narrow strip.  Just quickly clean off the old rubbers and door with spirits, (you don't need to totally removed the old adhesive), paint the strip lightly with adhesive on both surfaces, leave for ten minutes (which feels so wrong, but trust me it works!) and then push together.  But make sure you get it right first time as it sticks like ****!  

So far no problems and its been through 31 degrees in Spain and -2 in the UK, rain and shine.

Shame on Ford for ignoring this very common problem.

(ps my son's 60 Fiesta is also having the same problem.)

[JW1982]

This is a known problem of the Focus MK3. There is a TSB (Technical service Bulletin) that describes the recommended repair procedure for this problem.

The problem is basically caused by a reinforcement wire that is vulcanised inside the rubber material of the weatherstrips. During the manufacturing proces of the weatherstrips this reinforcement wire is stretched. During time the reinforcement wires shrink and puts a significant amount of tension on the weatherstrips. This amount of tension causes the weatherstrips to come loose at the ends or in corners.

The TSB describes the procedure to cut the reinforcement wires at a few particualr locations to eliminate the tension on the wire. When cutting the wire you actually hear it snap. After cutting the reinforcement wire the weatherstrips can be glued back into place. Ford prescribes a 2K adhesive for glueing the weatherstrips. I personally prefer Loctite 406 for glueing the weatherstrips. Loctite 406 is an instant adhesive specifically designed for rubber and plastic material.

Just glueing the weatherstrips back without cutting the reinforcement wire is usually only a temporary solution. This usually causes the weatherstrip to come loose at a different location (usually in the corners).

[fratello]

" The TSB describes the procedure to cut the reinforcement wires at a few particualr locations to eliminate the tension on the wire. "

Where are these reinforcements located ? Thanks !

[JW1982]

The reinforcement wire is vulcanised inside the rubber material (in the length of the weatherstrips). The composite wire should reduce stretching and also reinforce the rubber. However because of a flaw in the production process the wire inside the rubber shrinks and simply pulls the weaterstrip loose at one or both ends or in corners. 

Cutting the wire inside the rubber material solves this problem. The rubber of the weatherstrip can be folded open to cut the wire.

 

If I still heve the TSB I will post some instruction pictures of this procedure later.

 

[JONATHAN_11_80]

My dad has had this issue with his mk3 focus we tried everything finally resorting to duck tape which did the trick however it looks terrible.  In the end dad took it to a ford specialist who said there was a TSB for this problem so we had it sorted and touch wood the rubber strip has stayed attached to the car.

[JW1982]

It took me a while to find the TSB but I found it online.

 

Below some relevant information from this TSB:

 

service Information:
Damage symptoms of the door weatherstrip (Focus 2011.25 front door shown, all other similar)
NOTE: It would not be possible that these two different damage symptoms (1 & 2) are called at same time.

 
1: Slightly stripped off and partially removed front door weatherstrip on the door underside

 2: Partially removed front door weatherstrip in the area of the door latch
 

service Instruction:

Attach the door weatherstrip to the door frame

 

1: WARNING: Safety instructions of material equipment provided by the manufacturer must be observed.

Prepare the repair adhesive kit. Refer to the manufacturer's directions.

2: In reference to the damage symptom, the inside vulcanised fine wire should be cut.

1: Bend the door weatherstrip to get access to the inside vulcanised fine wire.

 

CAUTION: Do not damage the paint surface. The wire snap can audible be observed.

 

2: Briefly cut through the fine wire.

3: Range of separation for partially removed weatherstrips in the area of the door latch.

4: Range of separation for partially removed weatherstrips on the door underside.
◦Clean and dry the repair area. It is not required to remove any remaining traces of adhesive from the door frame.

 

 

 

3: NOTE: Allow the repair adhesive to dry (drying time ≥ 1 hour).

Apply repair adhesive (see Parts Required) to the door weatherstrip (door underside shown, other repair areas similar).
◦Max. Ø of adhesive bead: 3 mm

 

 

4: Place the door weatherstrip on the door frame in the correct position. Secure the door weatherstrip on the door frame using tape (door underside shown, other repair areas similar).

 

 
 

5: NOTE: If the ambient temperature falls below 10°C, apply warm air (25°C) continuously.

Press the door outer weatherstrip home for at least one minute in order to obtain complete adhesion (door underside shown, other repair areas similar).

1: Using a suitable plastic roller to press-on the weatherstrip. make sure that equal pressure is applied to the component.

2: Carefully check the correct position of the weatherstrip on the door frame.
◦Allow the repair adhesive to dry in reference to the manufacturers' directions but not less than 5 hours.
◦Remove any used tape.

 

 

6.If required, repeat steps 2 to 5 on the remaining doors.