Mountune Mp215 To A Standard St

[Clarky2013]

Thought I would do a quick right up of transferring from an STMP215 to a Stock ST

PLEASE NOTE

I do not intend for this topic to turn into a debate about mountune vs revo vs
finsport and if mountune is worth it to keep the warranty, it is purely my
opinion of transferring from mp215 to standard as most reviews are of standard to
mp215.

I parted with my st mp215 recently for a stock st. I had the MP215 upgrade fitted for around

2 months and had driven over 2000 miles with the mp215 fitted. I also had the
mountune silicone induction hose fitted.

I have now driven almost 400 miles with a stock ST, mix of country lanes, motorway driving
and around town in traffic.

The first thing to note, the engine pitch is slightly less ‘grunty’ in a stock st. The
mp215 seemed to have a ‘meatier’ engine note, however this only a slight
change, if you weren’t trying to listen for it you wouldn’t notice.

The next difference is the pronounced ‘hiss’ you get with the mp215 when jumping off the
throttle. In an mp215 the hiss is very noticeable even with the windows up. On
a stock ST you can still here it but it is a lot quieter. I personally liked
the hiss but a lot of people used to comment it sounded chavvy or like a dump valve.

Now the main difference of course is the revised engine map. When booting the mp215 in 2^nd
it is very urgent, yet again in 3^rd. A great way Ive seen of describing the mp215
is 2^nd gear is like stock 1^st gear, 3^rd gear
is like 2^nd gear stock. It is
quicker, but it doesn’t blow your mind and it isn’t hugely/ drastically
quicker. The pickup seems to be fractionally quicker aswell with mp215. Now the
interesting thing about the mp215 map, cruising at 60, 65 , 70 ish on the
motorway, you just have to give the throttle a little blip and you get an extra
10 mph, however the stock st seems to do the same, only fractionally slower,
almost like a few milli seconds of turbo lag (if you can class it as that).

I do need to point out though I lost at least 4 mpg off my average mpg and the stock ST does
drink fuel like water, but the mp215 if you give it a thrashing for a while
down an exciting road, your fuel gauge will definitely suffer, but that’s the
beauty of owning a hot hatch. If you can’t afford it don’t buy it.

So in summary, you can notice little changes and yes there is more torque available, however don’t
it expect the mp215 to blow your mind away and it to be drastically different.

I have now added the mountune silicone induction hose to my standard st and have noticed the
‘hiss’ is a bit more pronounced and can feel a change with the pickup being
slightly quicker.

I know it is only a short review but may help someone who is sitting on the fence deciding
over it.

[Jordanch]

Great read.

From a personal opinion perspective. I could never really see much different between stock and the mp215 from reading the power graphs.

A 15bhp increase isn't really substantial, however you would still rather have that extra power at your disposal than not have it of course. It's brilliant in terms of keeping the warranty as well. Having the upgrade just allows a sharper feel when you push your foot on the accelerator and smoother power through the rev range.

Won't mention anymore of my views on aspects of other competitors, I don't want to see any keyboard warriors saying who's best, etc..

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[neil1jnr]

Good to read.

I am a big fan of the turbo spool and hiss with my MP215, if it's warm enough the windows are down :D.

I've raced a friends ST with my MP215 and mines was only marginally quicker BUT it is all to do with feel, the MP215 feels sharper and a lot more responsive all the time, the torque feels so much more effortless.

That is the beauty of any mapped car, the increase response and a slightly better top end, due to the aluminium air box it does sound a good bit better too.

The power and torque increases is for marketing and to grab peoples attention, IMO I am paying for the better feel and response from the engine.

[Phil 87]

Interesting, I'll be sure to write a review when I get MP215 in about a week. I also like the "hiss" sound but I've only noticed it with the windows down. I think I'll be more impressed by the improved sounds than the speed, and it will probably feel faster than it is because of the placebo effect.

[Torchwood]

Explained well.

I have person knowledge of his explanations having gone out for a blast with Tom when he had the mp215. We did get the chance to both be in the right frame of mind when a car up front pulled off the road.

I have to say i was able to stay with Tom better than i thought, even Tom was surprised. I like the sound mine makes stock, any more might sound a bit too, boy racer ish, for me. Now i have had mine a couple weeks, been out with Tom read a few pointers. I must say as i said to Tom, the cost of the Mountune for what you get does not grab me! I'm in no hurry to upgrade, the margin gains are too small to warrant the £650 - £700 price tag. I can hear the 'hiss' with windows up, as i am not listening to any music at the mo... The rasp from the exhaust along with the hiss is too infectious... Big cheesy grin.

Yes will always be interesting to here others views, like yours Phil when its done.

[neil1jnr]

I wouldn't quite say there is a placebo effect, the car actually does have more power and specifically more torque with MP215 kit, it feels torquier becuase it is (approx 36lbs ft more). From 5-6K rpm it pulls harder too and doesn't run out of breath so quickly.

It is expensive for what it is but you are covered under warrenty. I'd recommend it to all ST owners, the car just feels say 15% better and sounds that bit meatier.

Phil I'd be shocked if you are not pleased with the upgrade :D

Cheers

[Alison79]

Listed torque increase is 22lbs ft rather than 36 (214 to 236) so say on average a 10% increase to torque and power across the range. Nice upgrade taken in isolation, just a shame they couldn't have made the gains a bit more decent, that's all....might have been tempted hehe