jeebowhite Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Sadly not that easy.... The immobiliser chip needs to be programmed and the chances you will find a flip key with the same print for your car is not likely, so I wouldn't hold out too much hope but give it a go by all means. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artscot79 Posted February 21, 2015 Share Posted February 21, 2015 Pretty easy buy the flip key it works on you're car get a mobile locksmith to programme and cut it or get them to supply code and cut scrap keys are a waste of time as said its not coded to you're car so it wont work also a lot of key shops don't have the cutter to do the ford key if he does then have him cut it and a Mobil programme it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westie321 Posted February 22, 2015 Author Share Posted February 22, 2015 I'll look at one on eBay and see if i can find a programmer around here i thought you can programme them yourself if you have the transmitter out of an old key, to get past the immobilizer. (old key is not a remote fob) Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeebowhite Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 yeah if you have an old key and can remove the chip then you just swap the innards, but if your adding more keyys it needscoding... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westie321 Posted February 22, 2015 Author Share Posted February 22, 2015 Im in luck then as ive got two keys (non-remote control) That means I can just get the key cut and match it up to the car.. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney871 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 You won't be able to programme the immobiliser key yourself. For that you need someone with an IDS module and the chip in a flip key is a different type (carbon chip rather than the glass tube in the older keys) Ford stopped the ability to self code transponders in about 2003-04 when the C-Max came out. The central locking you can do yourself though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westie321 Posted February 22, 2015 Author Share Posted February 22, 2015 so I cant just 1) Get a modded elm 327 with switch and activate the module in my gem 2) buy flip key of eBay 3) get the key cut to the code 4)put the transponder in the new flip key from my Manual key. 5) match the key up to the car by putting the key into the ignition turn 4 times beep lock button beep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeebowhite Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Pretty much. My key was modified to accept a glass chip in the flip key. Much cheaper than getting carbon coded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney871 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 You can transfer a glass chip but would need to modify the location and stick the glass chip (coil end forward) in place with silicone or similar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney871 Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Another thing to bear in mind is if you dismantle the flip key cap there is a very fiddly spring that can easily get lost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeebowhite Posted February 22, 2015 Share Posted February 22, 2015 Don't that a few times lol ended up having my key spring back into the case rather than out of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westie321 Posted February 22, 2015 Author Share Posted February 22, 2015 ill look out for it. I did one on my vw golf and lost the spring found it then over stretch it and the key didnt spring open nightmare ..... ive just got to wait untill the elm scanner to come :) cant wait .... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westie321 Posted February 25, 2015 Author Share Posted February 25, 2015 The cable has come today ive spend time looking into the reprogramming the gem-module. I cant seem to do any mods on it can you please tell me what i need to download and what im looking at Ive got the switch on the elm 237 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeebowhite Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Have you got elm config installed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westie321 Posted February 25, 2015 Author Share Posted February 25, 2015 Ive got Three installed Can you please send me a link to the one that i should use. thanks Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westie321 Posted February 25, 2015 Author Share Posted February 25, 2015 ONES not English tho ... they are ...forscan ... beta 0.1.1 ...ELM-FF2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeebowhite Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 ELM FF2 on its default page is not english, there is an english translation out there which can be downloaded. ELM Config has the option of russian or english and is the best one IMHO for changing the car, Forscan is a great diagnstoics tool but not for making changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westie321 Posted February 26, 2015 Author Share Posted February 26, 2015 I'm using the elm config it don't know what to active can you load yours up and high light what one I need to activate please that would be a great help. Thanks Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeebowhite Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 I would if I knew what exactly your looking to change :) you have said your reprogramming the GEM, there are many things you can be trying to change, so I dont know what your trying to do right now! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westie321 Posted February 26, 2015 Author Share Posted February 26, 2015 To activate the remote locking. I have got on to the config and connected it up to the car fine I'm just confused about what box to tick Auto lock Double locking Driver door unlocking Slam double locking Slam central locking Remote key-less entry Thanks Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theredfox Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 To activate the remote locking. I have got on to the config and connected it up to the car fine I'm just confused about what box to tick Auto lock Double locking Driver door unlocking Slam double locking Slam central locking Remote key-less entry Thanks Joe all those options omg ford make it hard just to lock /unlock a car :D 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westie321 Posted February 26, 2015 Author Share Posted February 26, 2015 I know.. it should be unlock/lock without remote key unlock/lock with Remote key unlock/lock with keyless remote key but then thats making it fool proof lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westie321 Posted February 26, 2015 Author Share Posted February 26, 2015 Would anyone be willing to do me a test and plug their car in that has the remote centre locking, to see what boxes are ticked on the gem page 1 Please it would be a great help :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeebowhite Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Autolock is when you want the doors to lock at 10mph,douvle locking enables the deadlock system, Driver door unlock is the anti hijack feature so you open only the drivers door on first click them the rest on second. Slam is a translation issue as civil-zz who wrote the app is Russian and his English is great but there are some words that show otherwise, so that's disable double locking and disable central locking. Remote keyless entry is if you have the keyless system installed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeebowhite Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 Make sure slam central locking is unticked and you should be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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