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#1 96_escort_si

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 10:09 AM

Hi guys, this is my first post on here so please be nice! lol!

I have a 1998 S Escort 1.6 SI with the zetec-E engine. I was travelling up the M1 the other day, in the middle of the heat wave, and my car started to lose power. The accelerator made no difference. When i released the accelerator and depressed it again i just got a small knocking sound from the engine bay. I looked at the temperature gauge and that had climbed quite high too, almost 3/4 of the way towards the red. So i decided to pull over to the hard shoulder and stop. There was no smoke or steam coming from either end of the car.

I got the car recovered and the recovery man had to put 5 litres of water into the cooling system and it still wasn't full. When we got it back to a garage, the mechanics had a look over it and phoned me saying that the head gasket had gone because there was water in the spark plugs. However, we towed the car back to my house because they were going to charge ridiculous money to fix it. When i inspected under the bonnet looking for the tell-tale signs of gasket failure (the mayo residue under the oil filler, sludge in the coolant tank and dis-coloured oil from the dipstick) i couldn't find any!

Any help on this would be really useful as i am a mechanicing newbie and am going to have to sort this one out myself as i cant afford to get a garage to sort it!

Thanks!

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 01:53 PM

Hi guys, this is my first post on here so please be nice! lol!

I have a 1998 S Escort 1.6 SI with the zetec-E engine. I was travelling up the M1 the other day, in the middle of the heat wave, and my car started to lose power. The accelerator made no difference. When i released the accelerator and depressed it again i just got a small knocking sound from the engine bay. I looked at the temperature gauge and that had climbed quite high too, almost 3/4 of the way towards the red. So i decided to pull over to the hard shoulder and stop. There was no smoke or steam coming from either end of the car.

I got the car recovered and the recovery man had to put 5 litres of water into the cooling system and it still wasn't full. When we got it back to a garage, the mechanics had a look over it and phoned me saying that the head gasket had gone because there was water in the spark plugs. However, we towed the car back to my house because they were going to charge ridiculous money to fix it. When i inspected under the bonnet looking for the tell-tale signs of gasket failure (the mayo residue under the oil filler, sludge in the coolant tank and dis-coloured oil from the dipstick) i couldn't find any!

Any help on this would be really useful as i am a mechanicing newbie and am going to have to sort this one out myself as i cant afford to get a garage to sort it!

Thanks!

Any drips from water pump?

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 02:58 PM

nope! put water in yesterday and none of it has dripped out! checked the oil against my brothers corsa's and it is the same colour.

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 03:55 PM

thermostat mate 9 i done one last week

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 04:00 PM

cheers! im definitely going to drain and clean out the cleaning system tomorrow and i will probs replace the thermostat while im at it!

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Posted 12 July 2009 - 05:25 PM

thermostat mate 9 i done one last week


Just thought i'd let you know that i checked the car's thermostat after ordering a new one and discovered that the only part that was left of it was the visible part when you take the housing off, everything that actually makes it a thermostat is missing! i will post some pics of what i mean soon. But the new one is now in!

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 02:42 PM

how long have you owned the car ? i have come across this before when a car has had its thermostat knocked out to cover up a head gasket problem, so the new owner would not suspect anything.

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 02:48 PM

how long have you owned the car ? i have come across this before when a car has had its thermostat knocked out to cover up a head gasket problem, so the new owner would not suspect anything.

I've had the car just over a month!

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 02:54 PM

when the system is flushed, refilled up and running i wolud definatley keep a check on the level as you might have been a victim of the same scam.

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 03:04 PM

when the system is flushed, refilled up and running i wolud definatley keep a check on the level as you might have been a victim of the same scam.

Do you reckon the head gasket could have gone? what sort of damage could the lack of thermostat cause? I'll post a pic of what came out of the housing! The one on the right is the one that came out!

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 03:35 PM

the lack of thermostat will not do any physical damage, only keep the temp down. it does look like it was knocked out, the big question is why?

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 04:06 PM

When the Head gasket went on my Son's 1.6, there was no sign of oil in ther water or vice versa. This would only occur if the gasket is blowing between the cylinder, a water jacket and oil return holes. In my example it had gone between the water jacket and number 4 cylinder so the cylinder was pressuraising the water system.

Sorry to say that it sounds like a head gasket to me, not a horrendous job except timing it up afterwards is a bit of a !Removed!! - Word of advice though, skim the head before refitting!

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Posted 13 July 2009 - 08:43 PM

damn! im hopefully getting a mobile mechanic to do a compression test to confirm either way if the gasket is blown or not, hopefully it wont have gone but it did get very hot so it may well have :( . Is there any other way of telling if the gasket is gone without taking anything off the engine?

Also, just a quick question. Is there a gasket on the rocker cover? i would like to take it off to give it a clean if its possible to do so easily!

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Posted 14 July 2009 - 03:24 PM

yes there shoud be.

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Posted 14 July 2009 - 03:36 PM

That makes it slightly more difficult! oh well!

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