dave doom Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 can anyone help, I have a smax 56 plate 2.0tdci titanium 6 speed and occasionally it will not start it will fire then stop after about 8 attempts it will start any clues and is it an easy fix, will not use local foird dealer as they are useless, please help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregers Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 whats the voltage on the battery through the onboard diagnostic showing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave doom Posted November 17, 2014 Author Share Posted November 17, 2014 not sure, but took the battery out yesterday and checked levels and charged for 5hrs as all this wet weather heater going wipers going headlights on, mrs doing school run and me using in the eve thought I would do that seems to be better, thanks if not that any ideas cheers jai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
137699 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 It is the DMF. A very common issue. A very expensive fix. Most owners just live with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregers Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 how do you know if you have a dmf fitted? will etis you the info. reason why i ask occasionally(once every month or so) my engine will just stop without warning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
137699 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 If you have a TDCi you have a DMF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregers Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 yes i do,many thanks for the reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave doom Posted November 20, 2014 Author Share Posted November 20, 2014 what is a dmf not a mechanic so don't know what these are I know what a ecu is and what a/c is but not dmf, sorry to sound dim cheers jai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
137699 Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 DMF = Dual Mass Flywheel - it is the clutch on the Smax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfless Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 just a foot note to this post - I'm no mechanic, but I had a similar situation to what you describe above recently and when I got to the bottom of it, the cause was actually a heavily clogged fuel filter. Its a b*tch to bleed when you replace it if you do it yourself, but it cost me £19 to get my 58 plate 1.8 Titanium back and running.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave doom Posted November 27, 2014 Author Share Posted November 27, 2014 recently serviced so all filters and fluids changed, what I have found is if I boot it just before switching off i.e put my foot down in second gear to about 3000rpm then park the car let it tick for about 30 seconds it starts fine, could it be the egr valve needing to be cleaned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
137699 Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 No, it's your DMF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave doom Posted November 27, 2014 Author Share Posted November 27, 2014 sorry to sound thick, but how can the dmf cause this problem, it is like there is a air lock in the fuel system then after about 8 attempts or a couple of mins it starts fine, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeebowhite Posted November 27, 2014 Share Posted November 27, 2014 over the years of abuse, the DMF starts to disintigrate into metal filings, which are drawn into the starter motor, the filings then prevent the starter motor from kicking the car to life easily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert290971 Posted December 11, 2014 Share Posted December 11, 2014 I also have a 56 plate 2.0tdci, which had exactly the same issue 3years ago. I replaced the starter motor and the difference in starter cranking speed was immediately noticeable. Not a sniff of trouble since. Starter was £140 from ford and 30mins to fit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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