Mg6 Now Competing Against The Focus. Your Opinions Please.

[simcor]

I am asking this here because they hope to sell to Focus and Octavia buyers mainly by the way it is pitched and segment it now sits in.

Would you consider an MG6 V a Focus bear in mind the 6 is diesel only at the moment so price wise the cheapest Diesel Focus may the most realistic comparison.

I am just curious to see what non MG owners think and whether they would consider the MG6 as an alternative if you were looking to buy a new car?

What do you think is good about the MG6 facelift?

What do you think is better about the Focus?

I am already expecting the usual comments like "it's a Chinese car" "it's rubbish etc" please lets not bother and get bogged down with that stuff.

Imagine you have driven both and have to decide between the two, price, satisfaction, equipment, size etc etc.

I am just curious how non MG owners would think as the amount of complaints on a MG enthusiasts site is absolutely bonkers, people will find anything to moan about on forums lol

[MONDEO TXS 2.2]

It's not a true M.G.

Focus for me.

[Goodkat]

I will be watching the new MG brand with interest, as they may become better with experience. At the moment I would say nay, I hear the diesel unit is a slightly rehashed old Rover unit, which is antiquated and inefficient. They also look cheap.

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[Celticfan]

I just think the MG is not a good looking car.

[simcor]

It's not a true M.G.

Focus for me.

What makes a true MG, according to the majority of MG enthusiasts nothing is a true MG lol

[simcor]

I will be watching the new MG brand with interest, as they may become better with experience. At the moment I would say nay, I hear the diesel unit is a slightly rehashed old Rover unit, which is antiquated and inefficient. They also look cheap.

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GNU STP

The diesel has no origins with any Rover engine at all so no idea where you have heard that from. It was a joint development engine between SAIC and Yunnei a Chinese diesel engine manufacturer.

Just out of curiosity why do you think it looks cheap? What gives you that impression?

[MONDEO TXS 2.2]

A true M.G. was made by William R. Morris of '' Morris Garages '' ( disputable ) in England.

[Goodkat]

I heard that it is a 'N series' unit, derived from Rover original designs. I read it somewhere, can't remember where. The general consensus is that it is cheap looking, I have seen one or two about and it doesn't float my boat in any way. I have also seen the YouTube videos of Chinese cars being obliterated by the smallest of accidents...

However. I am not ruling MG out as I think they could be a good motor with a bright future... Look at KIA. They sucked to start with and are now doing well for themselves!

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[TomsFocus]

I'd have the Focus if the choice was between those 2... Don't like the MG exterior (looks like a Proton!), don't like the interior, can't imagine the engine is as good as a French or German equivalent. And I'd assume its very Vauxhally - ie, looks good on paper with spec etc, but in reality everything is cheap and poorly made and doesn't work properly.

However, a lot of people will buy them I reckon, not sure if it'll be Focus or Octavia owners though, more like Hyundai/Kia owners.

[SeanW]

I don't like it.

I think I might have been slightly more warm to it if they didn't try and tell us it was an MG.

To me, an MG ought to be small, nippy and fun. That looks like the fat kid from Recess smiling.

I would have thought the Fabia would be a closer competitor to the Focus? (Love the old shape Fabia VRS)

[sonic113]

Have to say I don't like the MG. It has to be the focus, far better looking car.

:)

[chrisroberson99]

I'd rather walk than drive that piece of rubbish. Focus for me thanks! Or a Peugeot 308. ;)

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[volts]

The MG has the bigger boot. Everything else the Focus betters on IMO

[chrisroberson99]

Just buy a Focus estate. ;)

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[volts]

Yes true :) but throwing that option into the mix i may aswell step up to the Mondeo (newer car altogether and meets my space requirements prehaps too much better engine line up too)

[artscot79]

Mg isn't a competitor fords market is being eaten away by Kia and Hyundai who make cheaper more reliable better kitted out cars with a warranty ford still can't touch the mg is trying to nip into that market but it has flaws the engines gutless and unrefined the interior is still very cheap feeling and its untested as far as reliability goes and over priced compared to its more established competitors

[artscot79]

Mg isn't a competitor fords market is being eaten away by Kia and Hyundai who make cheaper more reliable better kitted out cars with a warranty ford still can't touch the mg is trying to nip into that market but it has flaws the engines gutless and unrefined the interior is still very cheap feeling and its untested as far as reliability goes and over priced compared to its more established competitors

The 2011 car had reworked k series engine called an n series in the k series simple form it was unrefined and suffered head gasket failures never mind making it to a 1.8 turbo that engines mow dropped and will have a 1.9 diesel engine suggesting a reworked old rover engine again a contender I don't think so a wishfull thinker maybe

[Gabbo_21]

The MG6 is underneith a Octovia and replaced the old MG ZS (Rover 45/400).

Before my Fiesta Zetec S & Focus Sport (both 1.6 TDCI) I have 2 MG ZS'. I had both a ZS 180 (2.5 V6) and the 115 (2.0 TD)

I would happily buy if they continued with the BMW engine like the first MG3 (MG ZR rename) rather than the new build in the UK

[simcor]

Interesting comments and explains a lot about the feeling to the car in general being Chinese and an MG.

Few points that are mildly misrepresented here.

The K series was reworked into the N series when they relaunched the TF before the Mg6 when NAC had bought the assests of MG Rover, SAIC had bought the IP rights, the government made the 2 companies join forces as they were both effectively trying to build and sell the same cars.

The engine was reworked even further and is now the TCI Tech or "Kavachi" engine so not entirely the K series that was but mostly based on it but with the known design flaws worked out of it.

The car launched with a reworked version of the K series engine yes, using a much better casting process than the original design, uprated internals and modifications to the waterways amongst other things and a large coolant system. The K series in it's day was a very advanced engine, it produced more BHP than most other makes at the time and was one of the first all aluminium blocks. The amount of MG6 and Roewe 550 cars sold with this engine is a much larger figure than the UK sales and so far there have been no reported HGF on the improved version.

My point about being a Focus competitor is the fact is has been classified in the same segment that the Focus and Octavia both occupy and MG themselves are aiming it against the Focus on the website.

I do wonder though how many of the comments about it being cheaply made etc are down to people believing what they read in press reviews and not actually experiencing the cars themselves in the metal. I would be interested to hear from anyone who has looked them over in showroom or test driven them?

Also I think they are going to face a long time issue of it's Chinese rubbish, funnily enough the same country that makes the iPhones that people go so crazy for not too mention others and a lot of what we buy is often made in China or similar.

This is really helpful to see what you guys think to be honest as it explains the general feeling quite well on how the cars are perceived by the general public.

[simcor]

The MG6 is underneith a Octovia and replaced the old MG ZS (Rover 45/400).

Before my Fiesta Zetec S & Focus Sport (both 1.6 TDCI) I have 2 MG ZS'. I had both a ZS 180 (2.5 V6) and the 115 (2.0 TD)

I would happily buy if they continued with the BMW engine like the first MG3 (MG ZR rename) rather than the new build in the UK

The only Rover ever fitted with a BMW lump was the 75/ZT with the M47R version on the M47 engine in the BMW 320, no other Rover or MG ever had a BMW engine fitted ever a common misconception. Technically speaking the only american engine as such could be the Rover V8 engine that was based on a design bought from Buick a long time back that help to give birth to the Rover V8 engine.

The only other engines they used to buy in were the cars that had Honda engines back in the day like the 600 series.

The MG6 was actually designed to sit between the old 45 and the Mondeo classes as did many Rover cars so they were neither one nor the other strictly speaking.

[artscot79]

I'm not saying the issue is its Chinese despite what people think half the electrics in the focus and many other cars are Chinese it doesn't mean it's cheap they have been building good engines for a long time from cars to lorries and motorcycles. The mg6 issue is its an mg the name to most who remember it says rover the name rover says cheap poorly built problematic rust bucket I say that from experience from my parents having rovers my sister having one and the sheer amount of them brought into the garage needing repaired for hg failures etc....

Although its not rover and those days are past many will remember it and simply not go near one.

As for the mg6 the more cars that steal fords market share the more ford have to improve in quality standard kit price and reliability

[Goodkat]

I see that they are now selling MGs new in Swindon, I may be tempted to go give one a spin and check one out in the flesh, then give you my opinion on it.

[Shennas]

MG lost it's roots the original car wall a small sports car the MG6 is not. I only go for petrols so it off to a bad start already!