£100 Parking Ticket!

[jeebowhite]

I find the council guys nice enough to deal with actually. Everytime I have parked up to pop in and pick up a note or prescription from my local doctors I ask them if I can leave it there without paying they say no worries you have 10 minutes. Saves me 70p and they are alright. I don't hate them, I hate the bull that they have to enforce. Most of the ones I spoke too don't believe in the tickets they write half the time, even they know previously cars appealed and won,bur they still have to write it out.

However if I ever was the guy who ticketed me th other day I would make him eat one of their precious signs and the tarmac he stands on.

[GrahamJC]

Tomorrow is the day!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/cars/article-3050822/Motorists-set-refunds-millions-depending-outcome-landmark-case-tickets-issued-private-land.html

[jeebowhite]

Looking forward to it.anothet argument for an appeal lol

[Dales]

I got a ticket in one of these retail parks last year while I was delivering to the Tesco site.

Tesco was getting a refurb. I was delivering to one of the contractors on the job as I had done on many occasions.

Part of the car park was used as a compound for the Tesco refurb where contractors had containers etc.

One of the days I couldn't get access to the compound. had to use the car park area which was only being used by all the contractors vans. NO other cars used this part of the car park.

So I went into a space just incase any the contractors wanted in or out of the area.

I straddled between 2 spaces so I could get all my delivery out the side door, just basically so I didn't hit the van parked next to me. plenty spaces around where I was.

Anyway I was parked like this for no more than 3 minutes, came out to the van. side door still open etc and it was very obvious I was delivering. One of the guys sitting in his van said she is giving you a parking ticket.

I thought he was taking the peee to be honest. but nope I was getting a ticket. I explained no one is using the car park in this area except for contractors etc. she told me I don't care, you are using up 2 parking spaces. I said as you can see I am delivering into the compound for Tesco, I didn't want to hit and damage the van next to me. still didn't care.

Now I admit it does pee me off when people cant park and take up 2 spaces normaly. but in this occasion I wasn't going to be stopping anyone from getting parked.

We got in touch with the contractor we were delivering to. They couldn't believe it. so they got in touch with Tesco. But Tesco told them they could do nothing about it.

So I told my company I am not paying this as I heard of all these people say don't pay. they cant do this or that about it.

But our company ended up paying it cause I refused. I would have seen the point and pay the fine if I was on the wrong. double yellows or something, disabled space.

But for a part of the car park being used for delivering and contractors parking. Me personally thought that's wrong.

But the contractor suffered through it all too. I refused point blank to deliver to the site again.

They have you by the nuts all these parking firms. People think I am not paying it. but then they get all these threats etc.

Its bullying at the end of the day the way they go through all the scare tactics with people. Too many people don't know how the law works cause they have never been in a situation like this. people cant actually sleep through stressing about things like this,

Hope it all works out for you mate, The £60 is better in your pocket than theirs

Good luck

[jeebowhite]

Fingers crossed!

[GrahamJC]

Sorry, but bad news: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3052063/Victory-parking-cowboys-Appeal-court-throws-chip-shop-owner-s-challenge-unfair-charges-park-private-land.html

[jeebowhite]

Of course it's reasonable for judges, they earn that amount a minute...

[Incontro]

Shameful result.

Isn't the DVLA the root of the 'problem' here? Aren't they breaching the data protection act by selling the details of driver's to the private parking companies? If so, someone needs to challenge the DVLA on this (class action perhaps?), and stop this from happening.

[jeebowhite]

Unfortunately it's not illegal to sell them just immoral. If you breach the terms of the agreement they apparently clearly state, then you are agreeing to whatever they want to do. Sadly as dvla are the root of all details, that's who has to share them. They only sell them as an administrator charge for time to retrieve them.

[jeebowhite]

Well, I checked online by trying to lodge an appeal on my car. It says they have made a final decision, yet, when I enter the ticket details into the site it says I still owe them 60 plus 1.50 card fee

So either their site is rubbish and is charging me still or they have refused the appeal, but not told me.

I will call them tomorrow and see what they say on the phone surely they will know if the appeal was successful or not, but as I am going away next week, if the letter drops in my box and I'm not here for a week then I have no time to respond and it goes to 100 quid, so I'm not changing waiting till then

[jeebowhite]

Called them and the charge is still due

Might as well pay the 61.50 and get it over and done with and see what cack they come back with. Better that than them adding 40 quid

[jeebowhite]

Paid begrudgingly... I will read there rubbish tomorrow lol

[Ford_Man]

Good luck I hope to see some positive news here!

[jeebowhite]

Haha no they took he money from my wallet, no good news to be had....

[MartynS]

Send them one of those glitterbombs lol.

[jeebowhite]

Sounds very tempting

[MattDRX]

Better to send them an envelope full of flour mixed with sugar and a picture of a certain organisation in middle earth, with the caption "you're next" that'll scare them.

Did it years ago to someone with a picture of a certain previously wanted person, he didn't come to school for a week lol

[jeebowhite]

Harsh lol, I think I would rather put the flour and sugar in there with the words 'have some anthrax' on the envelope :-D

[MattDRX]

lol that's the idea, keep them guessing, put it a proper cheap envelope too, the kind you always end up ripping open to make it go everywhere.

lolI remember the days of when Anthrax hoaxes came back, was all over the papers. good trolling really.

[kpg]

Happened to my fiancé once too. Apparently she parked in a no waiting zone and left her car. Apparently there was cctv evidence as well. She wasn't even out of the house that day !! Apart from that obvious fact, they kept sending letters demanding an ever increasing fee. We just ignored the letters and they stopped sending them.

Just ignore it.

It does seem scary but at one point we contacted citizens advice and they said something like the company had no legal right to demand money from us.

Con artists.

Sent from my iPhone 5s.

[jeebowhite]

They are con artists, the problem is, the recent high Court ruling that states they were not being unreasonable. That reinforces to these cowboys that they have the courts support and they can charge up to a hundred or so just because it's not seen as unreasonable. Well that's alright I'd you earn a judges wage of course.

Sadly these are conmen who are allowed to chase whoever they like and that recent ruling has inferred they can take the case to court with a good deal of success.

[MattDRX]

Perhaps next time try my route of ignoring them altogether. I've never entertained them except one, where they ticketed me in 9 minutes, the machines wasn't taking notes and the phone service didn't take my registration number, so I wrote to them with the MP for Windsor in copy and told them were to go, they replied saying my "appeal has been refused on the grounds of not having a valid ticket" I just replied and said take me to court then, I fancy my chances, the MP came back and said do not pay them and I didn't, they chased me again and I just sent them the previous letter of mine and they dropped it, I actually dared them to court me. very very rarely will they court people if there is even a sniff of losing, costs more than it's worth. ignoring them works best as they have no information on your circumstances altogether, you could even have a ticket in your pocket and they'd be a laughing stock, you're not obliged to entertain them either, make them sweat and they'll go away regardless of the red letter heads they send out and various threats issued.

[MattDRX]

But do not ignore council ones, they always 100% court people because jobworths.

[GrahamJC]

Since the recent Court of Appeal decision it may no longer be best advice to ignore excess charge invoices (or whatever you

care to call them). Before this decision there was some doubt about just how enforceable they were, now there is very little

doubt and the decision appears to have given the 'green light' to companies to pursue excess charges, if necessary through

the courts.

[MattDRX]

I get that, but the court is based on a balance of probability, you only need it 51% in your favour over a criminal court being 99.9999999999% beyond all reasonable doubt.

In my case above, I made every intention to pay and I was off getting change, hence I knew it was 9mins being ticketed and it stated it on the ticket and my email to the firm was 12 mins after the initial observation period. I think any court would find it in my favour that I have not deliberately intended to not pay and I was returning with payment so therefore they were not at a loss.

Parking fines are not there to be fine, they are to recover monies paid where a paying customer could have taken that parking spot, it's been tried before and successfully I might add, with that said, if the car park was never full that day they were not at a great loss and the fine was excessive, all you need is some kind of story and minute proof you intended to pay and there was no deliberate evasion then you'll be fine. All the other previous ones I still have all my info on them I'm just not entertaining the likes of these cretins.

Same could be said for speeding tickets, if we all said not guilty just take me to court the system would grind to a halt forcing a review and reimbursement of all previous infringes. problem is 99.999% of the offending population wouldn't have the bottle to do it.

Only 1 week to go until my petition goes live to reduce parking fines. will need every forums support, logically there are probably near 100k people live on car forums in the UK and coupled with FB links it will be easy.