Woz123 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Hi. New to the forum. Ive got a 10 plate 1.6 tdci fiesta, had it just over a year now. Im thinking about getting it remapped. Im after some advicd first from people that have already had it done. Is there anything that i should do before getting it done? What company to use? My car model is the 88bhp version. a company called celtic tuning claim... £300 The 1.6 TDCi engines we can take from 88bhp up to 123bhp and from 150lbft torque up to 201lbft torque giving a very impressive performance gain and all within safe design tolerance of the engine and drive train components. Our fast road software is designed to provide linear power delivery without any harshness to the acceleration, the benefit being prolonged life of your clutch and a superior drive over standard. We are also able to provide software aimed specifically at economy and also for track use in various stages. Thats uploaded on the drive at home, with a 14 day refund if required. No rolling road. Thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Hi. New to the forum. Ive got a 10 plate 1.6 tdci fiesta, had it just over a year now. Im thinking about getting it remapped. Im after some advicd first from people that have already had it done. Is there anything that i should do before getting it done? What company to use? My car model is the 88bhp version. a company called celtic tuning claim... £300 The 1.6 TDCi engines we can take from 88bhp up to 123bhp and from 150lbft torque up to 201lbft torque Thanks Hi, Prior to having it remapped i recommend: Upgrade induction filter see Guide: http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/topic/36783-green-cotton-performance-induction-filter-fitting-guide/ Blanking EGR valve see Guide: http://www.fordownersclub.com/forums/topic/42915-guide-fitting-egr-blanking-plate-16tdci-engine/ And for optimum performance have your fuel filter changed at next service. The gains sound reasonable, Another mod to consider is a 2.5" cat back exhaust. You may also like to view fiesta modifications available from Crude-Performance see link: http://www.nbstyling.co.uk/store/?pCat=16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz123 Posted July 4, 2015 Author Share Posted July 4, 2015 Thanks for the reply I have already purchased an egr blanking plate I just need to get it fitted. That website you have posted for modifications is very good. Thanks. Do you know what other companies to use for remapping? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Thanks for the reply I have already purchased an egr blanking plate I just need to get it fitted. That website you have posted for modifications is very good. Thanks. Do you know what other companies to use for remapping? No prob mate, Im in Ireland so im not sure,hopfully someone near you thats on here can recommend, Perhaps start a thread titled "recommended remap in Staffordshire area" if anyone around has been they will respond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz123 Posted July 4, 2015 Author Share Posted July 4, 2015 Thanks. Yeh ill have a good search on the forum first when i can get to a computer! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz123 Posted July 4, 2015 Author Share Posted July 4, 2015 This might sound a bit silly but, on the logbook and askMID website my car is showing that it is the 90hp model. Although online looking at remapping companies and parkers facts and figures it only shows information for 88bhp and 95bhp. How can I find this information out for sure? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 This might sound a bit silly but, on the logbook and askMID website my car is showing that it is the 90hp model. Although online looking at remapping companies and parkers facts and figures it only shows information for 88bhp and 95bhp. How can I find this information out for sure?The company that will be remapping your car; They will see this information when they plug there laptop in to your OBD port on the car, The figures are rounded off for insurance purposes, Your engine isint a 1.6 neither is like a 1.5889 but always rounded off Every engine is the same in this method of rounding. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1g_dav3 Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 If it's a live remap 125 - 130 is achievable, if it's an off the shelf style map then you'd be looking at about 110 - 115 which seems to be what you're going for. Both are great, the live map will always be better but honestly if you just want some extra poke for every day use the driveway option works nicely, and in fairness when you're talking maybe 130bhp max it's not really worth the extra expense :P I was happy enough when mine was done on a tuning box which is another option that recently seems pricier than some maps now, so I'd imagine you'll be pretty happy with the map. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNC Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 The reason you sometimes see figures like 90 & 88 is because the engine is 90ps but 88bhp, it's the same output but different measurement types. Celtic Tuning had done a number of cars on the Alfa forum and the owners seemed happy with their maps, so they seem to be a good company. 123bhp sounds a reasonable increase and not at all way over estimated. Going the remap route, speak to a few companies and ask for result graphs of your car and engine they've already done. Going the tuning box can be a cheaper option, sometimes doesn't give quite as high an increase but also isn't perminant and you can choose a setting which best suits you and your driving. Something like this is £262 with our 30% off everything Forum Code FOC30 (use at basket) will give you slightly less bhp increase but 30lbs/ft more torque than you've been quoted and more torque is just as important as bhp in a diesel, not only for power but also for economy as more torque requries less use of the accelerator to achieve the same results. Also don't just go for any tuning box, like a remap you need to make sure it's monitoring the safe limits at all times and stay within them, which the spider boxes I linked to do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz123 Posted July 6, 2015 Author Share Posted July 6, 2015 Thanks for the detailed reply. Ifs really helpful. Have you got any other remap companies that you know of, that i can contact. Pumaspeed I've heard mixed reviews. Elsewhere I've read mountune do a 10bhp increase but a huge torque increase which would be more beneficial as you mention. I never even thought about that option which has thrown a spanner in the works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONDEO TXS 2.2 Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Bluefin by Superchips is a good remap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Is this any help? http://www.mybluefin.co.uk/search?make=9&fueltype=2&model=1&variant=2385 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz123 Posted July 7, 2015 Author Share Posted July 7, 2015 Thanks for the link. Thats for a 95ps fiesta. Im very sure mine is 90ps. This is the frustrating part about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNC Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Thanks for the link. Thats for a 95ps fiesta. Im very sure mine is 90ps. This is the frustrating part about it put your vin number into here: https://www.etis.ford.com/vehicleRegSelector.do;jsessionid=3C108F6C71AAB4D8CA203B391426C377.eccvas508 and it should tell you exactly which version you have just too double check before you move on and choose the right tuning device. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz123 Posted July 7, 2015 Author Share Posted July 7, 2015 put your vin number into here: https://www.etis.ford.com/vehicleRegSelector.do;jsessionid=3C108F6C71AAB4D8CA203B391426C377.eccvas508 and it should tell you exactly which version you have just too double check before you move on and choose the right tuning device. Thanks, I see from your profile on the left, I presume you have remapped your car. What method have you used? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNC Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 I used these spider tuning boxes for both my current cars as I don't like the idea of permanent remaps to my cars as I in the end don't want the issue of trying to sell it like that and I can take it with me to my new car, they are easy to install yourself and give you car a great boost and make it come alive. I think I may have already mentioned but you can use the Ford Owners Club Forum Code FOC30 (at the basket) to get 30% off any of their products. I wrote a review here if your interested :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz123 Posted July 7, 2015 Author Share Posted July 7, 2015 Interesting. I have read your review and its very thorough. Never heard of these boxes. After unplugging the device does the car just remember what it used to be, if that makes sense haha. By that i mean, the settings of the ecu will just come back into normal use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNC Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 It doesn't install anything like a remap and store itself so the ECU is never really changed, it just kind of connects to the sensors overrides some default map settings and tells them that it should give X amount more power and torque (and even boost) depending on how demanding your riding the accelerator. Because it's connected to the sensors and learns the engine before providing any extra tuning it knows what the maximums it can give at each setting while staying within safe limits and even monitors air pressure too make sure it's not straining the engine at the wrong times. Basically because nothing is stored and it's continually monitoring and adjusting depending on your driving needs not only can it be more fuel efficient than normal when your not pushing the car, it is instantly back to its factory base settings the instant you un plug the box leaving no trace :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbell Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 I've noticed you plugging this all over the forum -- are you getting affiliate/referrer commission from the discount code? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNC Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 no? Is that something I can do? I may aswell get some benefits from my recommendations lol nah I'm just still in excited phase and loving the box on my new Fiesta as much as when I got my first one (almost 2 years ago I think) on my Giulietta, because of the light nature of the Fiesta compared to my heavy Giulietta it flies and drives differently with the box attached in comparison. I just like recommending Spider as an option, I've had two great products from them, a long term relationship and their customer service has been amazing like providing the promo code which I suppose they didn't have too. So sorry if I seem like a salesman but looking over the site there was loads fighting the Mountune corner and the bluefin corner that I thought I would recommend Spider as another alternative and push their corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbell Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 No worries - just figured its best asking (the referral commission thing is common in other things on forums, need to separate legit happy customers from the ones just looking to make cash ;) ) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNC Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Lol screw cash they can just give me a new bluetooth Performance Pack, a Launch Control Box and a Turbo box for each of my cars if they want to pay me so I can get the most out of my beauties :P But nah I'm getting nothing except some enjoyable rides and fun moments from them, in fact they keep taking my money away from me! But all worth it. I noticed from some of your likes though that your not the only person who thought I was maybe on commission, but then the people who liked your comment all talk about alternative tuning methods to my recommendations so I wonder if your right about people getting commission from companies and these guys think I'm competition haha jk :P 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz123 Posted July 9, 2015 Author Share Posted July 9, 2015 Im going to order one of these boxes, ill be in touch after fitting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz123 Posted July 9, 2015 Author Share Posted July 9, 2015 Just before I do.. You say the £200 after discount £140 box is more than adequate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNC Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Just before I do.. You say the £200 after discount £140 box is more than adequate? Yeah, it's a big difference from stock when set at max settings, (I definetly think with the Spider Tuning Box you should stick it on max settings as soon as the calibration and learning/run in period are out of the way, to get the most fun), it's what I've got currently on my fiesta. Rather than repeat myself here is the gains between the two boxes (usually 10% extra between the boxes) and the extras you get with the performance pack for you to decide but either are worth there price with the 30% off, get the best you can afford and enjoy it is the case with everything in life :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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